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<blockquote data-quote="Tyler Do'Urden" data-source="post: 3260850" data-attributes="member: 4601">Which is odd, given there's been a system for either or both in all the earlier editions.&nbsp; Hell, the friggin Rules Cyclopedia had a pretty full set in it- one designed to be fully compatible with the assumptions of the Known World setting at that.&nbsp; 1e AD&amp;D handwaived things a bit, but later 1e AD&amp;D and 2e AD&amp;D had the BATTLESYSTEM at the very least, and 2e Birthright added a full system for running domains as well.If it's better than Fields of Blood (meaning- I can plug it into all the assumptions of the core D&amp;D settings with no fuss, ala, say, the mass combat rules in Cry Havoc!, which were designed around the core assumptions of class and demographics in the DMG), you have a sale.&nbsp; My problem with most previous attempts by third parties is that they ignore the assumptions of the core settings and the DMG, and try to shoehorn in their own model of the gameworld, which isn't what I'm looking for.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tyler Do'Urden, post: 3260850, member: 4601"] Which is odd, given there's been a system for either or both in all the earlier editions. Hell, the friggin Rules Cyclopedia had a pretty full set in it- one designed to be fully compatible with the assumptions of the Known World setting at that. 1e AD&D handwaived things a bit, but later 1e AD&D and 2e AD&D had the BATTLESYSTEM at the very least, and 2e Birthright added a full system for running domains as well. If it's better than Fields of Blood (meaning- I can plug it into all the assumptions of the core D&D settings with no fuss, ala, say, the mass combat rules in Cry Havoc!, which were designed around the core assumptions of class and demographics in the DMG), you have a sale. My problem with most previous attempts by third parties is that they ignore the assumptions of the core settings and the DMG, and try to shoehorn in their own model of the gameworld, which isn't what I'm looking for. [/QUOTE]

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