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<blockquote data-quote="steels12" data-source="post: 9258378" data-attributes="member: 7034129">Yeah, I like the way you think. A spell doesn't have to directly say it makes a haven to meet the requirements. I MIGHT argue about Meld into Stone, but that's more on the basis of &quot;do the requirements to get a long rest fit into being encased in stone for 8 hours?&quot;, but that's more nebulous than anything. Overall I'd pretty much agree with all your points.I would probably &quot;<a href="https://emojipedia.org/index-pointing-up" target="_blank"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="☝️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/261d.png" title="Index pointing up&nbsp; &nbsp; :point_up:" data-shortname=":point_up:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></a><a href="https://emojipedia.org/nerd-face" target="_blank"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤓" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f913.png" title="Nerd face&nbsp; &nbsp; :nerd:" data-shortname=":nerd:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></a> uhm acktuallee&quot; the argument that the &quot;under threat of attack&quot; shouldn't simply count just for &quot;are you literally, mechanically in threat of attack&quot; but moreso &quot;does your character feel as though their wellbeing is potentially physically threatened by resting here&quot; which would disqualify even something like magnificent mansion if used in the wrong place. Granted, you wouldn't feel threatened using it in the deep wilds where only animals roam, because how is a wolf going to do anything to this spell, but just casting it in the middle of an open hallway intersection in the grand high vampire's lair might put you at unease realizing you're all one Dispel Magic from being shunted out into an ambush you don't even know the scope of.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steels12, post: 9258378, member: 7034129"] Yeah, I like the way you think. A spell doesn't have to directly say it makes a haven to meet the requirements. I MIGHT argue about Meld into Stone, but that's more on the basis of "do the requirements to get a long rest fit into being encased in stone for 8 hours?", but that's more nebulous than anything. Overall I'd pretty much agree with all your points. I would probably "[URL='https://emojipedia.org/index-pointing-up']☝️[/URL][URL='https://emojipedia.org/nerd-face']🤓[/URL] uhm acktuallee" the argument that the "under threat of attack" shouldn't simply count just for "are you literally, mechanically in threat of attack" but moreso "does your character feel as though their wellbeing is potentially physically threatened by resting here" which would disqualify even something like magnificent mansion if used in the wrong place. Granted, you wouldn't feel threatened using it in the deep wilds where only animals roam, because how is a wolf going to do anything to this spell, but just casting it in the middle of an open hallway intersection in the grand high vampire's lair might put you at unease realizing you're all one Dispel Magic from being shunted out into an ambush you don't even know the scope of. [/QUOTE]

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