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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 2341430" data-attributes="member: 20931">I'll make one attempt at rebuttal, lest mine debate genes kick in... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Thing is, density is rarly a consideration when magic is concerned. Take Polymorph Any Object, for example. Switching the object to another object of a diffent size/copostion doesn't effect the save. Some objects don't get a save at all...A large number of weight lifters/power lifters suffer from cardiovasulcar problems, heart disease, liver problems, lowered immune system, etc brought on by stress from the workout and dietary indifficiency (high protien/low carb diets KILL the liver...). Those that work out with health (Con) in mind don't usually suffer in this manner unless they're doing something REALLY wrong.As for poisons, necrotic vemons (like the recluse spider) isn't slowed down much by greater muscle mass. As for other poisons, yes muscle mass can slow down the process. Thing is, so can being overweight. It's a matter of an increases distance to target via the expanded circulatory system, not muscle tissue fighting the poison.And as any doctor can tell you, increased muscle mass doesn't decrease your odds of getting a disease. Exercise; yes, Muscle tissue by itself; no.Not so! Look at boxers. Their training allows them to dodge blows and roll with punches. While boxers are by no means stupid, I doubt the world champion is a Harvard graduate. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Speaking as a fairly bright individual trained with other bright individuals in martials arts, book learning does not equal instinct. Matter of fact, it's usually the opposite! Those taught to think theorically are rarely taught to think quickly. It's a rare individual who can do both (I believe there's a feat for it).If anything, if you want to run the 'instinct' angle, I'd use Wis instead of Int. Many of your mainly intuitive skills (Listen, Spot, Survival, etc) operate on this stat. Then again, that would step on the Monk's toes...When your right, your right. I can't think of an arguement for this one.My rebuttal would have been more thorough, but time is a factor. Until next time, good day and good gaming. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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