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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dark Jezter" data-source="post: 3034240" data-attributes="member: 1015">Heck, I hold open doors for guys also, it's just a polite thing to do.  In my post, I was talking about always opening the door for a lady - be it a car door, office door, etc.The point of my post is this: women can be treated like "just one of the guys" or they can be treated "like a lady", but not both.If you want to be treated like "just one of guys", be prepared to hear dirty jokes, get teased about your shortcomings, smell flatulence, and discuss topics such as beer, football, trucks, fishing, and which Hollywood actresses have the best T&A.If you want to be treated "like a lady", then men will pull out your chair for you, avoid crude/vulgar talk when you're around, smile and nod politely while you talk about things like clothes and relationships, etc.  But, by definition, being treated like a lady means that you'll be treated differently than a man (this does not necessarily mean that you'll be treated as an inferior - just different).</blockquote>