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<blockquote data-quote="Bayuer" data-source="post: 4615192" data-attributes="member: 61817"><p>@evilbob you just don't wont to see the easiest answer, don't you<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>On p.61 in DMG in Obscured Terrain you read:</p><p></p><p>So. Fog (vapors), heavy fog and darkness are obscuring terrain that block line of sight. Fog (light obscured), heavy fog (heavy obscured), darkness (totaly obscured). True?</p><p></p><p>Stinking Cloud creates a vapors. In description you see thats a thick cloud of bilious yellow vapors. Well. You have two options here. It's definetly not the totaly obscured terrain (it's not a darkness). So it's a light or heavy obscured terrain.</p><p></p><p>Later on p.61 in DMG you have:</p><p></p><p></p><p>And in other wizard powers you have one power that says about total concealment.</p><p>It's 23 Encouter Spell "Acid Storm":</p><p></p><p>Don't forget that the Cloudkill on 19 Daily Power don't says about total concealment just like Stinking Cloud dosen't. It just block line of sight.</p><p></p><p>So whe have Stinking Cloud, Cloudkill, Fog Cloud (6 lvl Wizard Daily thats says fog gives concealment), Hunger of Hadar (darkness) and Acid Storm (cloud with total concealment). Well in almost all cases we have clear answer. Only in those 2 clouds we don't have. Ahh theres a Wall of Fire, Wall of Ice. Both bloking line of sight. Is fire so obscured it gives total concealment? I don't think so. So why clouds? I prefer that all they gives concealmen (-2 to hit). But it will be still fair to rule that are heavy obscured squeares giving total concealement (-2 adjacent, -5 non-adjacent). I hop that WoTC will give us answer soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bayuer, post: 4615192, member: 61817"] @evilbob you just don't wont to see the easiest answer, don't you:D On p.61 in DMG in Obscured Terrain you read: So. Fog (vapors), heavy fog and darkness are obscuring terrain that block line of sight. Fog (light obscured), heavy fog (heavy obscured), darkness (totaly obscured). True? Stinking Cloud creates a vapors. In description you see thats a thick cloud of bilious yellow vapors. Well. You have two options here. It's definetly not the totaly obscured terrain (it's not a darkness). So it's a light or heavy obscured terrain. Later on p.61 in DMG you have: And in other wizard powers you have one power that says about total concealment. It's 23 Encouter Spell "Acid Storm": Don't forget that the Cloudkill on 19 Daily Power don't says about total concealment just like Stinking Cloud dosen't. It just block line of sight. So whe have Stinking Cloud, Cloudkill, Fog Cloud (6 lvl Wizard Daily thats says fog gives concealment), Hunger of Hadar (darkness) and Acid Storm (cloud with total concealment). Well in almost all cases we have clear answer. Only in those 2 clouds we don't have. Ahh theres a Wall of Fire, Wall of Ice. Both bloking line of sight. Is fire so obscured it gives total concealment? I don't think so. So why clouds? I prefer that all they gives concealmen (-2 to hit). But it will be still fair to rule that are heavy obscured squeares giving total concealement (-2 adjacent, -5 non-adjacent). I hop that WoTC will give us answer soon. [/QUOTE]
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