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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7220592" data-attributes="member: 48965">I'm showing how absurd your assertion that keeping bloat down must in and of itself be contrary to inclusiveness...  I'll leave the definitions to the dictionaries.Of course if you including those things means a larger percentage of your player base drops off because they want easily identifiable entry points, less books and rules to keep track of, or a myriad of other things... well your bloat just made you less inclusive... that's my point.  A blanket statement that keeping bloat down is contrary to inclusiveness is silly and not always true... Who did I shout down??  In fact I even gave my own wants for future races and classes... maybe you should go back and read how this tangent started... I asked a question of another poster that you, apparently without context, decided to jump in and take up the cause for.  Got called to task on the fact that avoiding bloat does not necessarily mean one is non-inclusive (along with edition war baiting) and now are trying to ascribe to me a position I never took of shouting people down in the thread...</blockquote>