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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nymrohd" data-source="post: 4638802" data-attributes="member: 59126">The orrery cosmology of Eberron is certainly not well detailed. Apart from the presence of Thelanis and Dal quor in a novel (and probably more; early bad experiences with Eberron novels stopped from reading more of them) the planes are not that well described. However the orrery structure is an important part of the plane that is tied to its history. By the few posts we have it seems the plan is to intergrate aspects of the core planes to the Eberron planes. If the structure is kept intact, this will not essentially be a change but rather more information. As for implementing archdevils and demon lords in Eberron, well 3E did that already. Levistus is in an iceberg city between western Khorvaire and the Frostfell.Keith Baker has thoroughly explained the concept of the dragonmark change. It is intented for players only to rarely be able to manifest a dragonmark not related to their lineage, and it is interpreted as the direct hand of the Prophecy. While I understand that saying something is rare and PC only will not change how often it will inevitably happen on game tables (especially if dragonmarks are actually strong choices for optimization), the explanation is more than adequate and fits the setting perfectly.Doom and gloom for FR was pronounced quite a long while before the FRCG was published. It was rather clear back when the GHotR was published that they were planning to blow the place up. There has been no such indication for Eberron. And the main reason the FRCG was mediocre was not so much the changes made but rather the substandard writing and the lack of imagination in describing the new world, both of which have nothing to do with assimilation to 4E but rather with more FR specific issues (especially in-house writters promoting their pet projects). Eberron and FR are disparate cases.P.S. Dark Sun did not just have a corner of the Elemental Chaos that had water. It had an entire paraelemental plane of Rain!</blockquote>

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