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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 770241" data-attributes="member: 8461">As I recall, they were Egyptian and Sumerian, since a Sumerian deity was the one who helped them make the journey to Realmspace.  Tyr is from the Norse pantheon yes, but Uthgar, while irl may have been a historical god, has not been mentioned in any other product. Thus, in the D&D cosmology, he didn't come from, nor is a part of, another pantheon.Yes, but they are separate issues. The idea that gods from "Earth pantheons" are worshipped in the Realms due to those old portals is an idea that has long since been decanonized. Those gods being there is now entirely separate from the old "once connected to Earth" bit (which itself hangs somewhat by a thread).Actually, they weren't shut down, they were, as I understand, just lost over time as they were forgotten and their magic faded. And other arch-mages can still use the ones still around also. The Simbul has been to Earth, we know (Ed Greenwood once saw her pull a nasty trick on Dalamar from Krynn). The real Khelben the younger lives on Oerth, the world of Greyhawk, while his father poses as him on Faerun.That may have been what it was, but it's long since been ret-conned. The way it works now is that the Imaskari took slaves from some world, we don't know where, and closed the portals they used, then set up a ban to make sure those gods couldn't get through. They didn't count on Ao allowing their incarnations in after physically crossing the distance. That barrier finally was lifted after the Time of Troubles. Earth has nothing to do with it.That decree, in and of itself, doesn't indicate anything about the Untheric and Mulhorandi peoples being Egytpian and Sumerian. It just says that gods are at a strength proportionate to their worship. At any rate, calling them "Egyptian" or "Sumerian" doesn't mean they're from Earth, thats just us applying a meta-game term so the players around the table can better understand the culture they're dealing with.No, we know how it worked. Ao went to those gods and told them that he would let them in Realmspace if they could physicall get there, but that they would still be cut off from their essence in the Outer Planes.Nothing says they went to Earth. As I said, the presence of those particular gods means nothing in regards to this.It is neat, but it hardly "runs" with the old Deities & Demigods concept of D&D gods (which I'm interpreting that statement to mean that they're extremely true to myth and legend), since it referenced things like the Great Wheel, and the Cthulhu mythos!</blockquote>

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