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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 770288" data-attributes="member: 2238">You make several points.  If you see the word "whatever" it means you are reading too much into my point and going beyond it (thus missing it).Point 1: Agreed.  Sumer, Babalon, Persia; close enough ;-)Point 2: He was an IRL god.  Whatever.Point 3: but it was canon at one point. Whatever.point 4:  Forgotten and magic faded = shutdown, Elminster = Archmage.  Whatever.point 5:  I am only going off of about 5 paragraphs in the FRCS.  Who cares how it worked, Imaskari had portals, brought people over, portals gonenow.  Maybe there were more, maybe not.  See I am not actually disputing anything you are saying here.  So... whatever.Point 6: I killed my own point before you did.  Time of troubles = recent, Imaskari = ancient.  Gods were free to exist without worshipers before Ao decree.  Therefore its not really a point, its what is called a "possibility" aka a valid way of looking at it even though there is nothing to back it up.  Think...  Whatever.point 7:  This is your reply to me saying "I am probably wrong" b/c I contradicted myself above.  If the people had nothing to do with the gods in thefirst place then Ao just picked them randomly for the rescue mission.  But then we have to ask why he didn't just get a local to take care of it.  Hrm.  think think think caps lock for this one WHATEVERpoint 8:  Hey its just a possibility that can make sense should a DM decide to make the place they went Earth.  Thats all I am saying.point 9:  you are misinterpreting the statement.  see below. since you caught it, you dont get a whatever. Most of what I say still holds because you are talking about somthing completely different than what I am talking about.  You are talking about realms canon.  I am talking about mythological influence and placement and the evolution of a story over several rewritings and two decades of development.  Now what I meant about being true to the original Dieties and Demigods book was that often DMs in those days just mixed all the pantheons they could get their hands on.  Also it shows that Ed was reading Dieties and Demigods when he was selecting what gods to put in the realms and that is why many of the gods in FR can also be found in RL.I could care less in game where Uthgar came from.  All I am saying is that he came from the Rus pantheon and that idea got into the head of whoever put him in the realms.   Aaron.</blockquote>

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