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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Syrsuro" data-source="post: 4341361" data-attributes="member: 58162">I am going to, in the absence of a ruling to the contrary, take it to mean a) that the character is out of sight and b) either the opponent does not know about the character OR the opponent is significantly mistaken about the opponents location.  That is, if you peek out and shoot, and then duck back - but do not then move (or only move 5' or so) - the opponent is going to assume that you are where he last saw you and if you jump up in that same spot again his belief will be confirmed and he will not be considered 'unaware'. Likewise, if you attempt to move after the shot and your stealth check is not sufficient to avoid his perception, he will be aware of your location (even if he cannot see you).  If, on the other hand, you move (making a successful steath check against his perception) from that location, the NPC (having failed to perceive your movement) will still believe that you are where he saw you last and thus when you attack it will be as if he was unaware of you. In other words - once you have attacked the NPC, he doesn't forget you exist, but he may be mistaken about where you are. But if his assumption regarding your location is correct (stealth check or not), you will not gain any benefits because he is expecting you to attack from that location.  To gain any benefit from stealth following an attack, you have to in some way invalidate the opponents assumptions - most likely by stealthily moving to a new location after your attack, before your next attack or both (and whether he gets an active or passive perception check to attempt to spot that movement will likely depend on whether or not he has a minor action to spend watching to see where you went). This feels like common sense, but I have to admit I haven't yet seen it in action (we've only played one session so far with the 4E rules and the rogue only used stealth once and didn't attempt to re-hide).  Carl</blockquote>

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