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<blockquote data-quote="seasong" data-source="post: 728026" data-attributes="member: 5137"><p>hong: Sorry, I misunderstood what you were talking about. My apologies.</p><p></p><p>Garmorn: On the contrary, I find that specializing is good... IF you have a smoothly functioning party. The main disadvantage my fighter would have in specializing is if his toys were taken away, and that would affect your fighter just as much. There's not really a downside to specializing with fighters, because their <em>basic competency</em> is so high regardless of their feats - Mr Melee can use a longbow just fine, just not as well as a specialist.</p><p></p><p>Harlock: Please see Mr Archer, below. His +5 arrows cost roughly 3 GP and 1 clerical castings per 100 arrows. I.E., they are a renewable resource. Is everyone just ignoring Greater Magic Weapon? Oh well, regardless, I include stats without it.</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Mr Archer</u></strong></p><p></p><p>Human Fighter, level 16</p><p>260,000 GP</p><p>no more than 40,000 GP in any single item.</p><p>Atts: Standard Array</p><p></p><p>STR 14/20</p><p>DEX 19/25 (15+4 for levels)</p><p>CON 13/17</p><p>INT 12</p><p>WIS 10</p><p>CHR 8</p><p></p><p>HP: 108 (140 while wearing the amulet)</p><p>AC: 27</p><p>BAB 16/11/6/1</p><p>Total Attacks: +37/+32/+27/+22</p><p>Total Attacks (w/Rapid Shot): +35/+35/+30/+25/+20</p><p>Total Attacks (w/Manyshot): +29/+29/+29/+29</p><p></p><p>Manyshot</p><p>Point Blank Shot</p><p>Precise Shot</p><p>Rapid Shot</p><p>Weapon Focus (Longbow)</p><p>Weapon Specialization (Longbow)</p><p>Improved Critical</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p>somethin'</p><p></p><p>Magic Items</p><p>Longbow +2, Icy Burst (32,000 GP)</p><p>Ring of Evasion (25,000 GP)</p><p>Ring of Protection +3 (18,000 GP)</p><p>Amulet of Health +4 (16,000 GP)</p><p>Belt of Giant Strength +6 (36,000 GP)</p><p>Gloves of Dexterity +6 (36,000 GP)</p><p>Bracers of Archery (5,100 GP)</p><p>Padded Armor +5 (25,155 GP)</p><p>Wings of Flying (5,500)</p><p>roughly 61K GP left over for miscellaneous stuff</p><p></p><p>Constantly Up Spell: Greater Magic Weapon (+5) on bow and arrows</p><p></p><p>Standard Full Attack (no Rapid Shot/Manyshot)</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 114.4</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 114.4</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 114.4</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 111.4</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 100.8</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 79.8</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 49.7</p><p>Enemy AC 50: 20.7</p><p>Enemy AC 55: 8.9</p><p></p><p>Rapid Shot</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 143</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 143</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 137</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 123.4</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 102.3</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 67.7</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 32.8</p><p>Enemy AC 50: 4.5</p><p></p><p>Manyshot</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 114.4</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 114.4</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 106.8</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 91.8</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 61.7</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 31.8</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 5.5</p><p></p><p>WITHOUT STACKING ENHANCEMENTS...</p><p>Attacks:</p><p>Standard +32/+27/+22/+17</p><p>Rapid Shot +30/+30/+25/+20/+15</p><p>Manyshot +24/+24/+24/+24</p><p></p><p>Standard Full Attack (no Rapid Shot/Manyshot)</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 93.5</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 93.5</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 91</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 82.4</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 65.2</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 40.6</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 17</p><p>Enemy AC 50: 7.3</p><p></p><p>Rapid Shot</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 116.9</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 111.9</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 100.9</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 83.6</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 56.5</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 33.1</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 15.8</p><p>Enemy AC 50: 5.8</p><p></p><p>Manyshot</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 93.5</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 87.3</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 75</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 50.4</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 28.2</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 12.2</p><p></p><p>WITHOUT GREATER MAGIC WEAPON...</p><p>Attacks:</p><p>Standard +29/+24/+19/+14</p><p>Rapid Shot +27/+27/+22/+17/+12</p><p>Manyshot +21/+21/+21/+21</p><p></p><p>Standard Full Attack (no Rapid Shot/Manyshot)</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 93.5</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 93.5</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 87.3</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 75</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 50.4</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 28.2</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 12.2</p><p></p><p>Rapid Shot</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 116.9</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 105.8</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 91</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 67.6</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 41.8</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 22</p><p>Enemy AC 45: 8.4</p><p></p><p>Manyshot</p><p>Enemy AC 10: 93.5</p><p>Enemy AC 20: 80</p><p>Enemy AC 25: 60.3</p><p>Enemy AC 30: 35.6</p><p>Enemy AC 35: 17.1</p><p>Enemy AC 40: 4.7</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seasong, post: 728026, member: 5137"] hong: Sorry, I misunderstood what you were talking about. My apologies. Garmorn: On the contrary, I find that specializing is good... IF you have a smoothly functioning party. The main disadvantage my fighter would have in specializing is if his toys were taken away, and that would affect your fighter just as much. There's not really a downside to specializing with fighters, because their [i]basic competency[/i] is so high regardless of their feats - Mr Melee can use a longbow just fine, just not as well as a specialist. Harlock: Please see Mr Archer, below. His +5 arrows cost roughly 3 GP and 1 clerical castings per 100 arrows. I.E., they are a renewable resource. Is everyone just ignoring Greater Magic Weapon? Oh well, regardless, I include stats without it. [b][u]Mr Archer[/u][/b] Human Fighter, level 16 260,000 GP no more than 40,000 GP in any single item. Atts: Standard Array STR 14/20 DEX 19/25 (15+4 for levels) CON 13/17 INT 12 WIS 10 CHR 8 HP: 108 (140 while wearing the amulet) AC: 27 BAB 16/11/6/1 Total Attacks: +37/+32/+27/+22 Total Attacks (w/Rapid Shot): +35/+35/+30/+25/+20 Total Attacks (w/Manyshot): +29/+29/+29/+29 Manyshot Point Blank Shot Precise Shot Rapid Shot Weapon Focus (Longbow) Weapon Specialization (Longbow) Improved Critical somethin' somethin' somethin' somethin' somethin' somethin' somethin' somethin' Magic Items Longbow +2, Icy Burst (32,000 GP) Ring of Evasion (25,000 GP) Ring of Protection +3 (18,000 GP) Amulet of Health +4 (16,000 GP) Belt of Giant Strength +6 (36,000 GP) Gloves of Dexterity +6 (36,000 GP) Bracers of Archery (5,100 GP) Padded Armor +5 (25,155 GP) Wings of Flying (5,500) roughly 61K GP left over for miscellaneous stuff Constantly Up Spell: Greater Magic Weapon (+5) on bow and arrows Standard Full Attack (no Rapid Shot/Manyshot) Enemy AC 10: 114.4 Enemy AC 20: 114.4 Enemy AC 25: 114.4 Enemy AC 30: 111.4 Enemy AC 35: 100.8 Enemy AC 40: 79.8 Enemy AC 45: 49.7 Enemy AC 50: 20.7 Enemy AC 55: 8.9 Rapid Shot Enemy AC 10: 143 Enemy AC 20: 143 Enemy AC 25: 137 Enemy AC 30: 123.4 Enemy AC 35: 102.3 Enemy AC 40: 67.7 Enemy AC 45: 32.8 Enemy AC 50: 4.5 Manyshot Enemy AC 10: 114.4 Enemy AC 20: 114.4 Enemy AC 25: 106.8 Enemy AC 30: 91.8 Enemy AC 35: 61.7 Enemy AC 40: 31.8 Enemy AC 45: 5.5 WITHOUT STACKING ENHANCEMENTS... Attacks: Standard +32/+27/+22/+17 Rapid Shot +30/+30/+25/+20/+15 Manyshot +24/+24/+24/+24 Standard Full Attack (no Rapid Shot/Manyshot) Enemy AC 10: 93.5 Enemy AC 20: 93.5 Enemy AC 25: 91 Enemy AC 30: 82.4 Enemy AC 35: 65.2 Enemy AC 40: 40.6 Enemy AC 45: 17 Enemy AC 50: 7.3 Rapid Shot Enemy AC 10: 116.9 Enemy AC 20: 111.9 Enemy AC 25: 100.9 Enemy AC 30: 83.6 Enemy AC 35: 56.5 Enemy AC 40: 33.1 Enemy AC 45: 15.8 Enemy AC 50: 5.8 Manyshot Enemy AC 10: 93.5 Enemy AC 20: 87.3 Enemy AC 25: 75 Enemy AC 30: 50.4 Enemy AC 35: 28.2 Enemy AC 40: 12.2 WITHOUT GREATER MAGIC WEAPON... Attacks: Standard +29/+24/+19/+14 Rapid Shot +27/+27/+22/+17/+12 Manyshot +21/+21/+21/+21 Standard Full Attack (no Rapid Shot/Manyshot) Enemy AC 10: 93.5 Enemy AC 20: 93.5 Enemy AC 25: 87.3 Enemy AC 30: 75 Enemy AC 35: 50.4 Enemy AC 40: 28.2 Enemy AC 45: 12.2 Rapid Shot Enemy AC 10: 116.9 Enemy AC 20: 105.8 Enemy AC 25: 91 Enemy AC 30: 67.6 Enemy AC 35: 41.8 Enemy AC 40: 22 Enemy AC 45: 8.4 Manyshot Enemy AC 10: 93.5 Enemy AC 20: 80 Enemy AC 25: 60.3 Enemy AC 30: 35.6 Enemy AC 35: 17.1 Enemy AC 40: 4.7 [/QUOTE]
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