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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mlund" data-source="post: 5972628" data-attributes="member: 50304">Well, the "wish list" thing isn't even a rules mechanic. It's in the advice for successful DM'ing in the DMG about communicating and managing expectations re: treasure. That advice was basically a response to the old AD&D problem of rolling random treasure tables and getting loot no one can use, or playing a module and getting one-size fits all treasure you can't use. Some DM's don't have any use for that advice. Fine for them. Some people even just run around using the idea to troll the internet (like Edition Warriors and Operating System Fan-bois).It's truly a rare bird that's deeply offended and convinced that such advice in the DMG is somehow actively inciting his players to rebel against their nigh-godly authority over the narrative as DM. Well, I at least see some mechanical balance issues here in terms of risk-reward and incentive. The system in a vacuum creates an incentive for 15-minute work days. Many times players forego that flaw in the system for the spirit of adventure. Sometimes DM's break out sticks to discourage it. I'd rather the system simply provide its own incentive in favor of drama and risk than have to paper over it or turn a blind eye.You've never read the original AD&D Barbarian Class introduced Unearthed Arcana? -9001 Nerd Points, sir. Next thing you'll be telling us you have a girl-friend and don't live in your parents' basement. For shame! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Seriously though, the Barbarian was absolutely kooky. He couldn't use Magic Items at low levels and was basically forced to break them and get XP for it instead of taking them as loot. He also got on with the Wizard like a Paladin got on with a Thief-Assassin. Hilarity ensues. Trust me.- Marty Lund</blockquote>

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