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What to do when one PC is *far* weaker than rest of party
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<blockquote data-quote="Herobizkit" data-source="post: 6838311" data-attributes="member: 36150"><p>If this were a 3.5 Bard, I would generally agree that your Bard player is already trying to play with one foot hacked off. I felt that the 3.5 Bard's greatest weakness was its jack-of-all-tradesness was under-shadowed by the fact that feats could make any class into a generalist and also better at what they already do.</p><p></p><p>A Bard who concentrates on Fighting, fr'ex, won't do as well as a standard Fighter before his Feats. Their spells are generally illusion/charms, which won't help them Wizard; they don't heal as well as Clerics; Rogues are (slightly) better skill monkeys.</p><p></p><p>Prestige Classes would have been a way to go, or (one of my favorite choices) multi-class into Warlock.</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder Bards, OTOH, have so much more going for them by way of Archetypes that they should never feel too under-powered.</p><p></p><p>I can only echo the ideas of the others. In a party of 6, her "output" isn't as important; if she's having fun, that's all that really matters unless her fun is somehow affecting the fun of others. In your group's case, it seems you were taking some kind of offense to her sup-par "build".</p><p></p><p>Magic items (especially the Big 6) would be the expected stop-gap for that, or again, Prestige Classing, perhaps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herobizkit, post: 6838311, member: 36150"] If this were a 3.5 Bard, I would generally agree that your Bard player is already trying to play with one foot hacked off. I felt that the 3.5 Bard's greatest weakness was its jack-of-all-tradesness was under-shadowed by the fact that feats could make any class into a generalist and also better at what they already do. A Bard who concentrates on Fighting, fr'ex, won't do as well as a standard Fighter before his Feats. Their spells are generally illusion/charms, which won't help them Wizard; they don't heal as well as Clerics; Rogues are (slightly) better skill monkeys. Prestige Classes would have been a way to go, or (one of my favorite choices) multi-class into Warlock. Pathfinder Bards, OTOH, have so much more going for them by way of Archetypes that they should never feel too under-powered. I can only echo the ideas of the others. In a party of 6, her "output" isn't as important; if she's having fun, that's all that really matters unless her fun is somehow affecting the fun of others. In your group's case, it seems you were taking some kind of offense to her sup-par "build". Magic items (especially the Big 6) would be the expected stop-gap for that, or again, Prestige Classing, perhaps. [/QUOTE]
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