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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 8042962" data-attributes="member: 50987">You can substitute any number you like for the 18, I suppose, but yep.  It hits the same cap that is granted by a number of magic items, like gauntlets of ogre power and the headband of intellect, while letting only a handful of special cases ever hit that sweet +5 bonus.Otherwise, if every character can hit 20 in every stat, this argument isn't so much a question of "can squirrels ever be as strong as hippos?" but rather "how many levels does a squirrel need to turn into a hippo?"  (to borrow the analogy from earlier.)</blockquote>