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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8043815" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I really don't like this sort of comment...No. The hypothetical player clearly wants to play a dwarf wizard, or a wizard that is tougher and more heavily armored than other wizards, or dwarf wizard wouldn't be what they're looking at.You've missed the point, here.The dwarf is heartier than the elf. That's a real thing that actually exists in the game as you play it. It is very minor, but it's there, and it helps inform the characters created. That is completely different from "you're stronger than a human of the same background who puts the same work into strength" but doesn't actually do anything at all.Like...what I at least am saying, is that the ability score bonuses help inform what the norms for that race are, in a way that feels real because it has an actual consequence, and it does so in the simplest way possible. Getting rid of that means either that the orc is no longer stronger (ie, has an easier time becoming very strong) than the human, or is stronger but in a noticeably more complex way that is suitable only for variant rules.IMO, in order for features that provide mechanical distinction, they will unavoidably favor some classes over others.They are objectively more complex during character creation. Maybe my meaning wasn't clear, though, based on your reply.So, what I'm saying is that replacing ASI bumps with descriptive features makes choosing between races, and understanding how the choice of race effects the total character, is more complex than the ASI bumps.</blockquote>

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