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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8046798" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>Unless the sole difference is one player rolled luckier than the other, that higher stat had a trade-off. The other player chose to have different abilities and a better bonus elsewhere, because they valued that ability score or capabilities more than the player who went for the Dex-optimised race.</p><p></p><p> Not a problem as I see it: It fits with the concept that humans are capable of excelling in a thing if they really put their mind to it.</p><p>A human who goes all-out for a high intelligence: picking Variant human, placing a floating bonus in Int, picking a +1 Int half feat can just match the intelligence of a gnome who is that intelligent - just by virtue of being a gnome.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not a fan of racial maximums: only a vanishingly small part of the populace are affected by them. I think racial ASIs are a better implementation of distinguishing the broad strokes of a race because it pushes the bell curve of the overall population. I feel that most half-orc should be stronger than most halflings. I don't really have an issue with that once-a-millenium legendary halfling hero being as strong as a once-a-generation half-orc hero.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Leaving aside the rather distasteful insinuations that you're making about people who don't agree with you, why do you believe that they find the current system that they want to continue to use unsatisfactory? How do you presume they believe it doesn't accomplish their goal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, leaving aside the slurs equating a section of the people who don't think as you do to nothing but knee-jerk reactionaries, I think it is because everyone draws their line on a different place on this spectrum.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I wouldn't think that political correctness is an issue. No one reasonable has brought up gender stat differences, and I don't think that anyone would want to push verisimilitude that far. I also think that we're all operating under the assumption that the unfortunate language linking some game races with real-life ethnic demographics is going to be removed, so that racial ASIs have no reflection upon them. </p><p></p><p>There have been an unpleasant few who try to paint their opponent's positions as extremes, from "without racial ASIs we are all just playing humans with masks" to "they're just arguing out of emotion due to fear of change." However there has also been a lot of acceptance, and listening to another's opinion and accepting it as valid, even if it doesn't change their own. It has been interesting, and sparked creation of some engaging suggestions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 8046798, member: 6802951"] Unless the sole difference is one player rolled luckier than the other, that higher stat had a trade-off. The other player chose to have different abilities and a better bonus elsewhere, because they valued that ability score or capabilities more than the player who went for the Dex-optimised race. Not a problem as I see it: It fits with the concept that humans are capable of excelling in a thing if they really put their mind to it. A human who goes all-out for a high intelligence: picking Variant human, placing a floating bonus in Int, picking a +1 Int half feat can just match the intelligence of a gnome who is that intelligent - just by virtue of being a gnome. I'm not a fan of racial maximums: only a vanishingly small part of the populace are affected by them. I think racial ASIs are a better implementation of distinguishing the broad strokes of a race because it pushes the bell curve of the overall population. I feel that most half-orc should be stronger than most halflings. I don't really have an issue with that once-a-millenium legendary halfling hero being as strong as a once-a-generation half-orc hero. Leaving aside the rather distasteful insinuations that you're making about people who don't agree with you, why do you believe that they find the current system that they want to continue to use unsatisfactory? How do you presume they believe it doesn't accomplish their goal. Again, leaving aside the slurs equating a section of the people who don't think as you do to nothing but knee-jerk reactionaries, I think it is because everyone draws their line on a different place on this spectrum. Personally, I wouldn't think that political correctness is an issue. No one reasonable has brought up gender stat differences, and I don't think that anyone would want to push verisimilitude that far. I also think that we're all operating under the assumption that the unfortunate language linking some game races with real-life ethnic demographics is going to be removed, so that racial ASIs have no reflection upon them. There have been an unpleasant few who try to paint their opponent's positions as extremes, from "without racial ASIs we are all just playing humans with masks" to "they're just arguing out of emotion due to fear of change." However there has also been a lot of acceptance, and listening to another's opinion and accepting it as valid, even if it doesn't change their own. It has been interesting, and sparked creation of some engaging suggestions. [/QUOTE]
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