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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8047406" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Wow, you seek to debunk me and yet, you make my point for me! Thank you so much. Of course such a character is a bit suboptimal. That is the point of fixed ASI!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for proving that floating ASI will only make all character making a class more or less the same. You are right in everyway save your conclusion. Also...The halfling I told you about rose to level 15 in a very gritty campaign. You do not know me. But TPK is a real thing in my games and I do not hesitate to do it. All rolls are on the open, especially mine. Level 15 is nothing to sneeze at. Many campaigns do not rise this high! And a class is not ruled by only one attribute. The Dex barbarian halfling was quite efficient thank you. She was a memorable character. As for the other racial abilities, Charlaquin saidYes... and no... It is not really enough to deter from doing this or that. In fact, some racial specials are way more powerful than others. Without Racial ASI to keep these in check, you'll see some players cherry picking for the best one related to class again. Not a bad take. Charlaquin's idea on giving an additional +1 ASI related to culture or background would achieve the same goal too. And it would require a lot less modification to 5ed to perform.However, in the eventuality of a 6ed. I think that I would side heavily on this take. It does have its charm and it would preserve a bit more the lore. On the other hand, the exception would no longer be an exception as any race will be able to perform optimally in every single class. This is both a blessing and a curse. I would much prefer to see both ASI to be fixed. But racial feat could be a way too. I'll have to analyse it further.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8047406, member: 6855114"] Wow, you seek to debunk me and yet, you make my point for me! Thank you so much. Of course such a character is a bit suboptimal. That is the point of fixed ASI!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for proving that floating ASI will only make all character making a class more or less the same. You are right in everyway save your conclusion. Also... The halfling I told you about rose to level 15 in a very gritty campaign. You do not know me. But TPK is a real thing in my games and I do not hesitate to do it. All rolls are on the open, especially mine. Level 15 is nothing to sneeze at. Many campaigns do not rise this high! And a class is not ruled by only one attribute. The Dex barbarian halfling was quite efficient thank you. She was a memorable character. As for the other racial abilities, Charlaquin said Yes... and no... It is not really enough to deter from doing this or that. In fact, some racial specials are way more powerful than others. Without Racial ASI to keep these in check, you'll see some players cherry picking for the best one related to class again. Not a bad take. Charlaquin's idea on giving an additional +1 ASI related to culture or background would achieve the same goal too. And it would require a lot less modification to 5ed to perform. However, in the eventuality of a 6ed. I think that I would side heavily on this take. It does have its charm and it would preserve a bit more the lore. On the other hand, the exception would no longer be an exception as any race will be able to perform optimally in every single class. This is both a blessing and a curse. I would much prefer to see both ASI to be fixed. But racial feat could be a way too. I'll have to analyse it further. [/QUOTE]

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