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<blockquote data-quote="Myrdin Potter" data-source="post: 8048226" data-attributes="member: 6843593"><p>Maxperson is using the common rhetorical trick of stating a truth that is fairly accepted - in this case don’t trust everything a corporate spokesperson says at face value - and then extrapolating it to a specific incidence - in this case the statements by WoTC and D&D Beyond (fandom.com) - and saying that a = b.</p><p></p><p>This is obviously incorrect.</p><p></p><p>The logical basis he derives as proof is the some people at WoTC have an agenda against feats because they add bloat. This is an assumption of intent without basis in fact. The general rule that mods seem to have here is that you should take people posting in good faith unless there is proof they are operating otherwise.</p><p></p><p>He further tries to discredit the D&D Beyond data by using the SRD only approach when DMs can share their books with players (12 or more) and many people buy at least the PHB on D&</p><p>D Beyond (really cheap with the coupon from the Essentials Set, for example).</p><p></p><p>He finally threatens to report to the mods people that laugh at his logic train when a very valid assumption is that he is trying to be funny.</p><p></p><p>Plus, this whole discussion is a sidetrack from the thread itself.</p><p></p><p>I will take it at face value that he has strong feelings on feats and is expressing himself from an emotional base. My normal conclusion would be trolling, but if I instead go the nicer way, there is no way to actually have a further discussion with him on the topic as he is arguing from emotion and rejecting counter arguments from an emotional stand.</p><p></p><p>Feats are really tricky to design and lead to many rules questions. I can fully see many people not using them as they are optional and I can actually believe that WoTC is being careful about them. That is a logical conclusion. Not the seemingly paranoid imaginings beimg presented.</p><p></p><p>BTW - corporate spokespeople almost always speak the literal truth with what they say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Myrdin Potter, post: 8048226, member: 6843593"] Maxperson is using the common rhetorical trick of stating a truth that is fairly accepted - in this case don’t trust everything a corporate spokesperson says at face value - and then extrapolating it to a specific incidence - in this case the statements by WoTC and D&D Beyond (fandom.com) - and saying that a = b. This is obviously incorrect. The logical basis he derives as proof is the some people at WoTC have an agenda against feats because they add bloat. This is an assumption of intent without basis in fact. The general rule that mods seem to have here is that you should take people posting in good faith unless there is proof they are operating otherwise. He further tries to discredit the D&D Beyond data by using the SRD only approach when DMs can share their books with players (12 or more) and many people buy at least the PHB on D& D Beyond (really cheap with the coupon from the Essentials Set, for example). He finally threatens to report to the mods people that laugh at his logic train when a very valid assumption is that he is trying to be funny. Plus, this whole discussion is a sidetrack from the thread itself. I will take it at face value that he has strong feelings on feats and is expressing himself from an emotional base. My normal conclusion would be trolling, but if I instead go the nicer way, there is no way to actually have a further discussion with him on the topic as he is arguing from emotion and rejecting counter arguments from an emotional stand. Feats are really tricky to design and lead to many rules questions. I can fully see many people not using them as they are optional and I can actually believe that WoTC is being careful about them. That is a logical conclusion. Not the seemingly paranoid imaginings beimg presented. BTW - corporate spokespeople almost always speak the literal truth with what they say. [/QUOTE]
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