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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2801195" data-attributes="member: 22882">Players should absolutely have some hope of succeeding, and it's definitely their game, too.&nbsp; I was simply stating my preference.My preference, in this case, is for games where you have to be at LEAST two of lucky, skilled and smart to survive a combat encounter.PCs are usually outnumbered and outgunned, and their opponents have a plan that's either a) proven effective against other opponents, or b) specifically designed to counter the PCs as a threat.&nbsp; The latter occuring only later in the campaign when the enemy have intelligence on PC capabilities.PCs are expected to slit the throats of sleeping enemies, use unsuspecting NPCs as bait (albeit hopefully with the intent of trying to save them), set ambushes, play politics with rival factions, and 'persuade' prisoners to give up critical info on enemy movements.&nbsp; Even if they do all of that, they on their own are not going to stop the enemy; they can only affect a relatively small part of a larger conflict.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 2801195, member: 22882"] Players should absolutely have some hope of succeeding, and it's definitely their game, too. I was simply stating my preference. My preference, in this case, is for games where you have to be at LEAST two of lucky, skilled and smart to survive a combat encounter. PCs are usually outnumbered and outgunned, and their opponents have a plan that's either a) proven effective against other opponents, or b) specifically designed to counter the PCs as a threat. The latter occuring only later in the campaign when the enemy have intelligence on PC capabilities. PCs are expected to slit the throats of sleeping enemies, use unsuspecting NPCs as bait (albeit hopefully with the intent of [I]trying[/I] to save them), set ambushes, play politics with rival factions, and 'persuade' prisoners to give up critical info on enemy movements. Even if they do all of that, they on their own are not going to stop the enemy; they can only affect a relatively small part of a larger conflict. [/QUOTE]

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