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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9416583" data-attributes="member: 6716779">So currently running two campaigns since December. Bi weekly so highly a game every week depending on cancelations, bonus sessions etc. Requirements generally need 3 PHB+ or equivalents. Money is not a huge issue but having to import a full set of books+ extras might be a bridge to far. 3 midgard books cost me $300 NZD (180 usd).  Options (access is important btw it's what's available/cheap). 5E.Cons (all of them). After 10 years bit sick of 5E.2014.Pros. 5E we have the books. Cheap (basically  free). I get to play occasionally DM.2024.New and shiny but feels like paying for errata. Cons. Not feeling well disposed towards WotC. Not sure if everyone else wants to buy it. Artificer and other 2014 stuff is gonna be power crept even if compatible enough.Tales of the Valiant.Pros. Not WotC. Cons still 5E potentially expensive/hard to get as access to KP books  is spotty. Castles and Crusades. Pros. Gone down well across both groups we have 7 phb (3 hard covers, 4 print outs). Like TLG. Cons. Limited in some ways with players options (2E has more).  2E. Pros it's Second Ed, trickle of material is available. Cons only 3 phb and aged gaming material but easy enough to print cheap PDFs. Players my have to buy PDFs of Complete class book. Pathfinder 2. Pros. 4 players wanting to play it with several willing. Cons only 1 book, expensive no one wants to run it (big problem I admit). $80 approx for more books but available  at least. Not casual friendly. Might do a 1 off?B/X clone (ACKs or OSE advanced). More options but not great level 1-2. Need to buy OSE, ACKs (2012)is vintage won't be buying more.  Not 5E also has the OSR/TSR back catalog.</blockquote>

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