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<blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1768545" data-attributes="member: 16936">My most-hated traditional fantasy convention hasn't changed from the last time this topic came around.It's that damn &quot;Golden Age of Magic and Heroes.&quot;&nbsp; You know, how years and years ago magic was everywhere and all-powerful and there were flying cities and life was SO MUCH BETTER until the catastrophe came and all the cities crashed and the powerful old magic was lost and the best thing anyone can do is to rediscover that old knowledge, blah blah blah.It's irritating.&nbsp; Where are the settings where progress is actually, y'know, PROGRESS, and not just digging up wondrous relics of the Lost Golden Age?&nbsp; Where society has improved, developed, and become more sophisticated than its ancestors?&nbsp; Where people are actually pushing the boundaries and learning new things?--maybe we should blame the elvesryan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herpes Cineplex, post: 1768545, member: 16936"] My most-hated traditional fantasy convention hasn't changed from the last time this topic came around. It's that damn "Golden Age of Magic and Heroes." You know, how years and years ago magic was everywhere and all-powerful and there were flying cities and life was SO MUCH BETTER until the catastrophe came and all the cities crashed and the powerful old magic was lost and the best thing anyone can do is to rediscover that old knowledge, blah blah blah. It's irritating. Where are the settings where progress is actually, y'know, PROGRESS, and not just digging up wondrous relics of the Lost Golden Age? Where society has improved, developed, and become more sophisticated than its ancestors? Where people are actually pushing the boundaries and learning new things? -- maybe we should blame the elves ryan [/QUOTE]

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