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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1768795" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>I dont think there are many general fantasy conventions that I am tired of. Especially since there are not really very many of them anyway, outside of roleplaying games.</p><p></p><p>As far as DnD/RPG conventions theres a few, most of them specfically DnD.</p><p>In the campaign I have just started:</p><p></p><p>There is no Cleric. There is also no "divine" magic, theres just magic. There is a single supreme benevolent creator, and Powers of good that serve it (and evil powers as well). Some people know that, some dont...and so there are all manner of religions that have grown up.</p><p></p><p>The whole idea that all spellcasters are either arcane "nukers" or "divine" healers doesnt sit well with me. I've expanded the Wizard spell list a bit, and added a bloodline based sorcerer, a Witch and a Mystic class. </p><p></p><p>All that is probably my biggest one. The idea of a spellcasting, armor wearing "priest"...the idea that every culture is polytheistic, and that these polytheistic deities each have their own exclusive hieriarchial churches. The idea that what people know about gods and religions (and for that matter, magic, monsters etc) is all true. And also the fact that the existence of Clerics and all this other "divine" stuff pretty much negates the idea of faith...you dont have to have faith in your beliefs, because you have proof.</p><p></p><p>Also some of the racial sterotypes...or more, the assumption that every or even most races fit into that sterotype. Once again, especially with religion. The idea that every race has its own pantheon, and that those gods are real, and that that race knows all about this, and that 90% of them choose to follow their racial gods. </p><p></p><p>I'm not really wild about the magic-hating dwarf syndrome, especially since mythically, and in much literature Dwarves are actually quite magical...I mean how else do they make all those enchanted weapons and armor?</p><p></p><p>And of course, the Law/Chaos part of DnD alignment bugs me. And the Neutrality thing to...the whole deal of your "neutral" if you arent a crusader. </p><p></p><p>Most of whats been discussed here I either dont mind, or havent actually encountered. Not every world neccesarilly has a "golden age of heroes" although many do. I dont ever see myself completely tiring of the "standard" fantasy races, although new ones are always nice. </p><p></p><p>I think the idea that the heroes are above average is fine, but that doesnt mean that they have to be "chosen" or that what they are doing is tied to some special destiny, although thats fine as well. </p><p></p><p>Overall I enjoy most of the standby's of fantasy, but some of DnDs idiosyncrisies are begining to annoy me</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 1768795, member: 10397"] I dont think there are many general fantasy conventions that I am tired of. Especially since there are not really very many of them anyway, outside of roleplaying games. As far as DnD/RPG conventions theres a few, most of them specfically DnD. In the campaign I have just started: There is no Cleric. There is also no "divine" magic, theres just magic. There is a single supreme benevolent creator, and Powers of good that serve it (and evil powers as well). Some people know that, some dont...and so there are all manner of religions that have grown up. The whole idea that all spellcasters are either arcane "nukers" or "divine" healers doesnt sit well with me. I've expanded the Wizard spell list a bit, and added a bloodline based sorcerer, a Witch and a Mystic class. All that is probably my biggest one. The idea of a spellcasting, armor wearing "priest"...the idea that every culture is polytheistic, and that these polytheistic deities each have their own exclusive hieriarchial churches. The idea that what people know about gods and religions (and for that matter, magic, monsters etc) is all true. And also the fact that the existence of Clerics and all this other "divine" stuff pretty much negates the idea of faith...you dont have to have faith in your beliefs, because you have proof. Also some of the racial sterotypes...or more, the assumption that every or even most races fit into that sterotype. Once again, especially with religion. The idea that every race has its own pantheon, and that those gods are real, and that that race knows all about this, and that 90% of them choose to follow their racial gods. I'm not really wild about the magic-hating dwarf syndrome, especially since mythically, and in much literature Dwarves are actually quite magical...I mean how else do they make all those enchanted weapons and armor? And of course, the Law/Chaos part of DnD alignment bugs me. And the Neutrality thing to...the whole deal of your "neutral" if you arent a crusader. Most of whats been discussed here I either dont mind, or havent actually encountered. Not every world neccesarilly has a "golden age of heroes" although many do. I dont ever see myself completely tiring of the "standard" fantasy races, although new ones are always nice. I think the idea that the heroes are above average is fine, but that doesnt mean that they have to be "chosen" or that what they are doing is tied to some special destiny, although thats fine as well. Overall I enjoy most of the standby's of fantasy, but some of DnDs idiosyncrisies are begining to annoy me [/QUOTE]
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