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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VirgilCaine" data-source="post: 1769028" data-attributes="member: 17083">1. IMC, Elves are one of four places:1. Shadow-Bound on the Plane of Shadow. (See The Shadow Glade Random Encounters on WotC site) a la Shadar-kai from the 3e FF.2. Seelie/Unseelie types on the Plane of Faerie. The most inclined to (relatively) peacefully interact with humans, but they don't bother unless their attention is attracted, for weal or woe.3. Drow. They are either slaves or escaped slaves of the monolithic beholder/illithid empire. 4. Undead of various types. All the "normal elves" were "deadified" when Thurken the Reviled (a very stupid Bugbear) wished that the Elves would die...and they did, sort of.Also, Lolth died when another idiot went beyond the stated boundaries of wish. Yeah, thats what I do to people who don't listen when I say something.Of course, all of these Elves are pretty antisocial, even the Seelie types. And there aren't any Elven artifacts or great Elven anything (notice Elves have no Int bonus? Yeah.).2. IMC, PHB Orcs have been "trumped" by a goblinoid empire--any that have survived are pitiable, humbled beings.</blockquote>