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What Tumble variant do you use?
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<blockquote data-quote="SableWyvern" data-source="post: 219245" data-attributes="member: 1008"><p>Shard:</p><p></p><p>Just so we are both on hte same page, the variant I'm using is -</p><p></p><p>Tumble past DC = attack roll</p><p>Tumble through DC = attack roll + 10</p><p>Defensive Casting DC = attack roll + spell level</p><p></p><p>(Although I don't have a spell fail on a failed defensive cast check; only if the caster is actually hit).</p><p></p><p>Your reasoning for not using these variants makes sense - however, I use them because it's easy for Rogues with maxed out tumble or casters with maxed out concentration to make their checks every time by the time they're around 10th level or a bit higher, with a big impact on how combat plays out.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think it should be easier to tumble safely past the innkeeper's wife and her rolling pin, than the king's dragonslaying champion.</p><p></p><p>While prepared actions can help prevent completely free tumbling and casting everywhere, they are not an adequate solution, IMHO.</p><p></p><p>In summary, I find opposed checks make for a more reasonable use of tumble and defensive casting at higher levels, but sticking with the default rule is not necessarily a Bad Thing (tm).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SableWyvern, post: 219245, member: 1008"] Shard: Just so we are both on hte same page, the variant I'm using is - Tumble past DC = attack roll Tumble through DC = attack roll + 10 Defensive Casting DC = attack roll + spell level (Although I don't have a spell fail on a failed defensive cast check; only if the caster is actually hit). Your reasoning for not using these variants makes sense - however, I use them because it's easy for Rogues with maxed out tumble or casters with maxed out concentration to make their checks every time by the time they're around 10th level or a bit higher, with a big impact on how combat plays out. Personally, I think it should be easier to tumble safely past the innkeeper's wife and her rolling pin, than the king's dragonslaying champion. While prepared actions can help prevent completely free tumbling and casting everywhere, they are not an adequate solution, IMHO. In summary, I find opposed checks make for a more reasonable use of tumble and defensive casting at higher levels, but sticking with the default rule is not necessarily a Bad Thing (tm). [/QUOTE]
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