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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 224780" data-attributes="member: 1118">But this is exactly my point, most combat actions are not guaranteed in the 3E rules and thus tumbling flies in the face of "3E combat realism"And this is where we have a difference of opinion, which I'm sure will remain no matter what we say.  I *do* think that a 20th level fighter who has been there and seen it all, will be able to react to a tumble attempt better than a blind kobold.  Sure, the tumbler might flawlessly tumble, but the reactions of the opponents would be drastically different, and this is not modelled with the current rules.  Again, the 3E rules have a concept that the higher the roll the better, so in that view of realism, I have an issue with some getting a -4 on their Tumble check accomplishing exactly the same thing as someone who rolled a 14.  And, as I stated earlier, my pet peeve (we all have them with the rules, you can't tell me there isn't some rule you haven't changed or would like to change) is that I don't like 100% of success.  That's why I use an alternative to the exisiting tumbling rules (mostly identical to the S&S version).  Someone who has put a lot of ranks into Tumbling will still succeed most of the time, but it's not an assured thing - I like that.IceBear</blockquote>