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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shardstone" data-source="post: 9065212" data-attributes="member: 6807784">Are you the type of person that if I bring up academic and peer reviewed evidence you'd be down to play or are you the type of person that if I start bringing up citations and stuff you'll just stop responding? Need to know before I start actually gathering resources to make my argument.Note, your analogy doesn't fly with me. I strongly think that the definition of magic used by specifically by longterm D&D players is at odds with both literature (as in, fantasy and greater speculative literature), tradition, and a few fields of thought when it comes to genre theory etc etc. I think because of the definition longterm D&D players use, the ability to actually to create something that satisfies both parties (in this case, spellless ranger vs spell ranger) is hindered, but not actually impossible, just hindered.</blockquote>