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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9065241" data-attributes="member: 18">And what's particularly sad is pop-culture is absolutely chock-full of characters who are inspirations for a potential Ranger, but D&amp;D's lead designers, who are, frankly, hopelessly out-of-touch culturally.As I've said before, the easiest modern example of a Ranger is Katniss Everdeen. Stealthy, careful, woodwise huntress, using all sorts of &quot;nature tricks&quot;, who is also tactically adept. Again as I've noted before, her story is in many ways very similar to that of Aragorn, particularly with both becoming somewhat unwilling leaders. She should be easy to model with a D&amp;D Ranger, instead she's impossible (and a poor fit for Rogue or Fighter too).That's exactly how you vanish up your own arse and become culturally irrelevant though, especially when you're &quot;the&quot; fantasy RPG, and still selling yourself on the basis that you offer the full breadth of &quot;class fantasies&quot;.D&amp;D isn't succeeding because it's &quot;different from other fantasy&quot; or &quot;its own kind of fantasy&quot;. It's succeeding because it's still kind of in the middle ground, the meeting point, of a bunch of fantasy. But current leadership and the fact that 5E is based on the &quot;apology edition&quot; is unfortunately kind of dragging it towards the &quot;own arse&quot; event horizon, as it were. It's still a distance off yet, but I could see it getting there.To put it another way, 5E's designers are in danger of turning D&amp;D into almost a fantasy heartbreaker by failing to change with the times</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9065241, member: 18"] And what's particularly sad is pop-culture is absolutely chock-full of characters who are inspirations for a potential Ranger, but D&D's lead designers, who are, frankly, hopelessly out-of-touch culturally. As I've said before, the easiest modern example of a Ranger is Katniss Everdeen. Stealthy, careful, woodwise huntress, using all sorts of "nature tricks", who is also tactically adept. Again as I've noted before, her story is in many ways very similar to that of Aragorn, particularly with both becoming somewhat unwilling leaders. She should be easy to model with a D&D Ranger, instead she's impossible (and a poor fit for Rogue or Fighter too). That's exactly how you vanish up your own arse and become culturally irrelevant though, especially when you're "the" fantasy RPG, and still selling yourself on the basis that you offer the full breadth of "class fantasies". D&D isn't succeeding because it's "different from other fantasy" or "its own kind of fantasy". It's succeeding because it's still kind of in the middle ground, the meeting point, of a bunch of fantasy. But current leadership and the fact that 5E is based on the "apology edition" is unfortunately kind of dragging it towards the "own arse" event horizon, as it were. It's still a distance off yet, but I could see it getting there. To put it another way, 5E's designers are in danger of turning D&D into almost a fantasy heartbreaker by failing to change with the times [/QUOTE]

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