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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9067324" data-attributes="member: 63508">The issue isn't about taking the control or giving the control to a DM.It's that typically DMs do not have the knowledge of Rangery stuff to adjudicate them nor is a core gauge within the system to base DCs of these actions offf like Armor Class.It is not fair to put the entire ranger class uniqueness on a gauge based on the whim and uninformed imagination of the DM with no link to the system.It becomes doubly problematic where the only core DCd are made only for low level and no wilderness challenges above level 5 are in the core books.EDIT:This is why pass fail turn off spells for rangers work.Because you can't really trust a person who has zero knowledg of ranger stuff to know what is Easy, Medium, or Hard without a gauge.Or you'll end up with the 1e unambushable murderblade ranger because the designer DM overuned it to heck.Or like the 3e ranger on the opposite end</blockquote>