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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 9071554" data-attributes="member: 7040941">I don't believe being unable to face a Demilich from the Abyssal Plane of Doom is a critical thing people need out of a Ranger that emulates Aragorn.Its being able to face such things without having to be a cruddy Druid. The two ideas aren't mutually exclusive, and people who genuinely want that low fantasy approach are factually playing the wrong game. DND mechanics support and call for higher octane fantasy heroics.Plus, to be frank, what we see in LOTR is already a part of Appendix N and is still a part of what 5e can provide for. Aragorn and Legolas can go toe to toe with trolls and hordes of orcs. Thats high power enough on its own to be compatible, and if we take the assumption that LOTR dragons are just a different construction altogether to the DND dragon, then thats your bases covered, aside from stuff thats explicitly designed to be a mage problem.At which point it isnt a genre problem but a game design problem. If we assume such designs should exist at all,  magic equipment provides the means to bridge the gap. And likewise, it should go in both directions. There should be things that magic can't actually handle well, and they should need equipment (or abilities, in both class types) that help bridge the gap.Using my game as an example, martials pretty much exclusively get your standard trio of Blunt/Piercing/Slashing damage, and through them they get the best Conditions in the game.A Sorcerer subclass, Stone Carver, bridges the gap on that access, compressing their Earth-based magic (the weakest of the elements in terms of raw power) into rocky shards that can inflict BPS damage, and thus drive those Martial conditions through magic.Making damage matter and setting class, magic, and weapon design to create a good interplay between them all is the key, essentially, and you can carry the same philosophy through all of the games components.Sure, but they are well aware of the tropes if they've spent time playing the game. You can recognize where DND came from in Three Hearts and Three Lions for a reason, after all, and you don't need to know who Poul Anderson is to like the genre. (Because fundamentally if you like DND you already do like the genre)</blockquote>

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