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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9074271" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Lions also can't change, and aren't very intelligent. Bad analogy is bad. And, is there more than one body of natural knowledge? Sure. Why do rangers get to be best at tracking, foraging, herbology, toxicology, speaking with animals, speaking with plants, and general terrain knowledge while the druid... is worse at all those things and only gets to experience them through spells and shapeshifting? Honestly, with this spell-less ranger who can make healing poultices, poisons, speak with animals, track anything, forage for everything, and detect unnatural beings in natural settings... what is the druid doing better? Casting spells? Didn't someone earlier saying that casting spells is just waving your arms around like a drunken mime and has nothing to do with nature?And yes, The Ranger is the Druid/Fighter, just like the Paladin is the Cleric/Fighter. The Ranger isn't some OTHER expression of being part of nature that is different than how a druid is part of nature. That doesn't make any logical sense. Druids have all of the same thematic weight as a class focused on the wilds and surviving in them. Far better than rangers, because again, Druids absolutely LIVE in the wilds, while Rangers... don't always.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9074271, member: 6801228"] Lions also can't change, and aren't very intelligent. Bad analogy is bad. And, is there more than one body of natural knowledge? Sure. Why do rangers get to be best at tracking, foraging, herbology, toxicology, speaking with animals, speaking with plants, and general terrain knowledge while the druid... is worse at all those things and only gets to experience them through spells and shapeshifting? Honestly, with this spell-less ranger who can make healing poultices, poisons, speak with animals, track anything, forage for everything, and detect unnatural beings in natural settings... what is the druid doing better? Casting spells? Didn't someone earlier saying that casting spells is just waving your arms around like a drunken mime and has nothing to do with nature? And yes, The Ranger is the Druid/Fighter, just like the Paladin is the Cleric/Fighter. The Ranger isn't some OTHER expression of being part of nature that is different than how a druid is part of nature. That doesn't make any logical sense. Druids have all of the same thematic weight as a class focused on the wilds and surviving in them. Far better than rangers, because again, Druids absolutely LIVE in the wilds, while Rangers... don't always. [/QUOTE]

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