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What type of ranger would your prefer for 2024?
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9075958" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>It is part of the fantasy of the Ranger too. But people still want to get rid of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Great! Here's the trick. Currently, both druids and Rangers can speak to animals using a spell slot. If they both can do so at-will... why wouldn't this just be a spell at-will, like the Warlock Invocation? It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a spellcaster have one of their spells as a non-spell ability, just so a half-caster can be stripped of spells. But it also doesn't make sense to have them do the same thing, but one of them avoid mentioning the spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rangers are spellcasters too, and they have healing magic. They don't need to use herbal poultices either. </p><p></p><p>And, herbalism kits can, in theory, do this, but the crafting rules are terrible and I can't remember if Healing Potions are RAW allowed to be made with an herbalism kit. (The non-difference between Alchemy and Herbalism is a thorn in my side) </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes it does. How do you find the evil things despoiling your forest if you don't track them? And any "use animals" answer... is the exact same thing we just agreed rangers can do. </p><p></p><p>Druids tracking makes sense. Rangers being better at it makes sense too, but Druids should be able to track.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rangers also have spells. </p><p></p><p>So, here we are. The druid and the Ranger should share a lot of thematic elements, but the Druid doesn't need some of them because they have spells... the same spells rangers get.... that ranger's should lose for some reason?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Sure, some rangers can do that, but so can some druids. There is no class requirement that my friendly hunter must dominate and conquer nature and bend it to his will. That is something people keep adding for no reason. The ranger is not the enemy of nature, bending it to serve his whims.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9075958, member: 6801228"] It is part of the fantasy of the Ranger too. But people still want to get rid of it. Great! Here's the trick. Currently, both druids and Rangers can speak to animals using a spell slot. If they both can do so at-will... why wouldn't this just be a spell at-will, like the Warlock Invocation? It doesn't make a lot of sense to make a spellcaster have one of their spells as a non-spell ability, just so a half-caster can be stripped of spells. But it also doesn't make sense to have them do the same thing, but one of them avoid mentioning the spell. Rangers are spellcasters too, and they have healing magic. They don't need to use herbal poultices either. And, herbalism kits can, in theory, do this, but the crafting rules are terrible and I can't remember if Healing Potions are RAW allowed to be made with an herbalism kit. (The non-difference between Alchemy and Herbalism is a thorn in my side) Yes it does. How do you find the evil things despoiling your forest if you don't track them? And any "use animals" answer... is the exact same thing we just agreed rangers can do. Druids tracking makes sense. Rangers being better at it makes sense too, but Druids should be able to track. Rangers also have spells. So, here we are. The druid and the Ranger should share a lot of thematic elements, but the Druid doesn't need some of them because they have spells... the same spells rangers get.... that ranger's should lose for some reason? No. Sure, some rangers can do that, but so can some druids. There is no class requirement that my friendly hunter must dominate and conquer nature and bend it to his will. That is something people keep adding for no reason. The ranger is not the enemy of nature, bending it to serve his whims. [/QUOTE]
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