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<blockquote data-quote="Mirrorrorrim" data-source="post: 9084037" data-attributes="member: 7040132">Dishonest attempt at a gotcha? Seriously? Okayyy. I am asking for your clarifications for what you are looking for, because your argument made no sense to me. I had to point out why your reasoning was dissonant to me. You provided an answer to my example, which was probably give three classes the same ability because they all have the option of casting it as a spell. I asked how you would handle all the other spells that fit that same answer. Then I provided different options that I thought might represent your argument.So I will reiterate my question. What is it you want to see, and how does it fit into 5E? And just so we are very open and honest, if you have a great idea, I'm going to say so. If I see a problem with it, I'll offer my concerns and ask for your clarification.To jumpstart this, you said that 5E is lacking some customizable slots. What would those look like? Because to me it sounds like &quot;spells, but not spells&quot; or perhaps an expansion of the feat system. Or is it a complete rewrite of the rules into a Warlock-ability type system where you build a class based on abilities? Because 4E didn't do that either. And no, I don't have a &quot;memory hole&quot; for how 4E worked. I was right there playing it for the entirety of the edition. Levels 1-30.What is this vision of yours that offers an alternative to the Spell system, which in my opinion is, like feats, an elegant way to provide a common ruleset for a diverse number of abilities to be used by a diverse array of character types?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mirrorrorrim, post: 9084037, member: 7040132"] Dishonest attempt at a gotcha? Seriously? Okayyy. I am asking for your clarifications for what you are looking for, because your argument made no sense to me. I had to point out why your reasoning was dissonant to me. You provided an answer to my example, which was probably give three classes the same ability because they all have the option of casting it as a spell. I asked how you would handle all the other spells that fit that same answer. Then I provided different options that I thought might represent your argument. So I will reiterate my question. What is it you want to see, and how does it fit into 5E? And just so we are very open and honest, if you have a great idea, I'm going to say so. If I see a problem with it, I'll offer my concerns and ask for your clarification. To jumpstart this, you said that 5E is lacking some customizable slots. What would those look like? Because to me it sounds like "spells, but not spells" or perhaps an expansion of the feat system. Or is it a complete rewrite of the rules into a Warlock-ability type system where you build a class based on abilities? Because 4E didn't do that either. And no, I don't have a "memory hole" for how 4E worked. I was right there playing it for the entirety of the edition. Levels 1-30. What is this vision of yours that offers an alternative to the Spell system, which in my opinion is, like feats, an elegant way to provide a common ruleset for a diverse number of abilities to be used by a diverse array of character types? [/QUOTE]

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