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<blockquote data-quote="Gladius Legis" data-source="post: 7552437" data-attributes="member: 68748">Mostly because PHB's Natural Explorer and Favored Enemy are two of the worst designed class features in 5e. Many campaigns can go without those features ever coming into play. They're not even good as ribbon features. Hide in Plain Sight isn't much better, Vanish is 1/3 of the Rogue's Cunning Action 12 levels too late, and to say nothing of that god-awful capstone.Power-wise the PHB version of the class is within the bell curve thanks to Extra Attack and half-spellcaster status, though the base class is on the weaker side of it. Beast Master is an extremely weak subclass on top of a weak-ish base class, which is why it constantly rates in the gutter. On the other side of the power curve, Gloom Stalker (Xanathar's) is such a strong subclass that, despite the PHB Ranger base class being on the weak side, a character with that subclass is overall quite strong. Playing an archery-focused Gloom Stalker (PHB Ranger base) right now, currently at Lv. 7, and having a lot more fun than I thought I would.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gladius Legis, post: 7552437, member: 68748"] Mostly because PHB's Natural Explorer and Favored Enemy are two of the worst designed class features in 5e. Many campaigns can go without those features ever coming into play. They're not even good as ribbon features. Hide in Plain Sight isn't much better, Vanish is 1/3 of the Rogue's Cunning Action 12 levels too late, and to say nothing of that god-awful capstone. Power-wise the PHB version of the class is within the bell curve thanks to Extra Attack and half-spellcaster status, though the base class is on the weaker side of it. Beast Master is an extremely weak subclass on top of a weak-ish base class, which is why it constantly rates in the gutter. On the other side of the power curve, Gloom Stalker (Xanathar's) is such a strong subclass that, despite the PHB Ranger base class being on the weak side, a character with that subclass is overall quite strong. Playing an archery-focused Gloom Stalker (PHB Ranger base) right now, currently at Lv. 7, and having a lot more fun than I thought I would. [/QUOTE]

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