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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 7553566" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>I am currently playing a Hunter Ranger and as of 4th level have never used Favored Enemy or Natural Explorer. At this point it is the same as getting no abilities at all at 1st level. I have 3 spells that are fixed, while the Paladin has six spells (Plus Divine Smite) and can change 4 of them everyday.</p><p></p><p>I also played a 13th level Beast Master Ranger for a one-shot. The animal companion added no damage boost and just sucked up healing resources. At the end I had to leave it hiding in the corner while the rest of the party was fighting so it wouldn't die from AoEs, which completely negated the Ranger's subclass. I honestly believe it was never tested at high levels. How it got all the way into the PHB in its current form is beyond me.</p><p></p><p>Oh, I almost forgot the Ranger gets Primeval Awareness. I mean, that's how bad it is, I forgot I even had it. I looked it up again and, nope, still useless. So that is 1st and 3rd level abilities I might as well not even have.</p><p></p><p>The spells I do have are good (Goodberry, Hunter's Mark and Longstrider). And the Fighting Style and Colossus Slayer allows him to be effective in combat, but that doesn't fix the fact that the rest of his abilities suck.</p><p></p><p>And now I made the mistake of looking ahead a few levels. 5th level both the Ranger and Paladin get Extra Attack, cool. Then at 6th... ugh. I get an extra Favored Enemy and Terrain, which will probably still not be used. The Paladin gets Aura of Protection. So +3 to every Saving Throw (including Death Saves) for himself and everyone within 10' of him.</p><p></p><p>So, to answer the question of this thread, I use the PHB Ranger, but that is only because I like the concept of the Ranger and the DM doesn't allow me to home brew him or used the UA Ranger. Personally I would use the UA Ranger, but even then I would home brew it to give the Hunter and Beast Master extra spells (like the Paladin) and make Hunter's Mark a class feature (and take it off the spell list of all other classes).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 7553566, member: 31754"] I am currently playing a Hunter Ranger and as of 4th level have never used Favored Enemy or Natural Explorer. At this point it is the same as getting no abilities at all at 1st level. I have 3 spells that are fixed, while the Paladin has six spells (Plus Divine Smite) and can change 4 of them everyday. I also played a 13th level Beast Master Ranger for a one-shot. The animal companion added no damage boost and just sucked up healing resources. At the end I had to leave it hiding in the corner while the rest of the party was fighting so it wouldn't die from AoEs, which completely negated the Ranger's subclass. I honestly believe it was never tested at high levels. How it got all the way into the PHB in its current form is beyond me. Oh, I almost forgot the Ranger gets Primeval Awareness. I mean, that's how bad it is, I forgot I even had it. I looked it up again and, nope, still useless. So that is 1st and 3rd level abilities I might as well not even have. The spells I do have are good (Goodberry, Hunter's Mark and Longstrider). And the Fighting Style and Colossus Slayer allows him to be effective in combat, but that doesn't fix the fact that the rest of his abilities suck. And now I made the mistake of looking ahead a few levels. 5th level both the Ranger and Paladin get Extra Attack, cool. Then at 6th... ugh. I get an extra Favored Enemy and Terrain, which will probably still not be used. The Paladin gets Aura of Protection. So +3 to every Saving Throw (including Death Saves) for himself and everyone within 10' of him. So, to answer the question of this thread, I use the PHB Ranger, but that is only because I like the concept of the Ranger and the DM doesn't allow me to home brew him or used the UA Ranger. Personally I would use the UA Ranger, but even then I would home brew it to give the Hunter and Beast Master extra spells (like the Paladin) and make Hunter's Mark a class feature (and take it off the spell list of all other classes). [/QUOTE]
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