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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9603163" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>User ratings on Metacritic should never be given any weight at all ever!</p><p></p><p>You don't have to buy them to rate them, and they get review-bombed constantly (and very rarely, reverse-review-bombed, usually by hyperfans of some terrible gacha game or the like). Any game which isn't "the best game ever" (i.e. BG3) but has something even arguably "woke" is going to pay for it in reader reviews. Often good games are slammed down to 4/10 or worse because they had a Black lead or allowed you to pick pronouns. Honestly I'm actually shocked Avowed got 7/10, because it is well into the "woke zone" for the kind of basement chud/incel who review-bombs these games, and I know they were doing it at one point.</p><p></p><p>Critics is an interesting one here, because I think it very much depends on what you're into. Critics very much split into 7/10 and 9/10 groups, basically seemingly based on whether they liked/vibed with the plot/story/characters/dialogue or not.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I loved the plot/story/characters/dialogue, and I think anyone who likes TTRPGs and/or fantasy novels is <em>likely</em> to feel the same way.</p><p></p><p>I've just finished it and for me, overall I'd say it was probably an 8.5/10, the only things holding it back from a 9/10 being enemy variety and upgrade mechanics. It's definitely in the tier of RPGs I'd probably actually play again sometime, which isn't most of them.</p><p></p><p>As an aside, kind of confirming my thinking re: TTRPGs/fantasy novels, I noticed two of the writers were Cassandra Khaw (a pretty fun fantasy/horror writer), and a name no doubt familiar to many of us who played RPGs in the 1990s, Lucien Soulban, he of Tribe 8/Silver Age Sentinels/Orpheus fame (and many others). That is definitely the vibe - this is quite a TTRPG-ish game in terms of the story/plot, and what they ask you to care about - it's quite intellectual in a sense, like asks you what you actually value, which puts it very much in line with Fallout: New Vegas and Tyranny and generally a fair bit of Obsidian's output (even Pentiment).</p><p></p><p>Also the last bit of the game including the ending was surprisingly good (the actual ending/epilogue is very much of the traditional RPG "slide-show" kind, but I like those, honestly, for choice/consequences games - those are often better and more actually-satisfying than more elaborate efforts). It's also a game that doesn't really "reveal itself" in terms of overall vibes until into Act 2, which may be a bit long for some people (there are four acts and then a two-part ending section).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9603163, member: 18"] User ratings on Metacritic should never be given any weight at all ever! You don't have to buy them to rate them, and they get review-bombed constantly (and very rarely, reverse-review-bombed, usually by hyperfans of some terrible gacha game or the like). Any game which isn't "the best game ever" (i.e. BG3) but has something even arguably "woke" is going to pay for it in reader reviews. Often good games are slammed down to 4/10 or worse because they had a Black lead or allowed you to pick pronouns. Honestly I'm actually shocked Avowed got 7/10, because it is well into the "woke zone" for the kind of basement chud/incel who review-bombs these games, and I know they were doing it at one point. Critics is an interesting one here, because I think it very much depends on what you're into. Critics very much split into 7/10 and 9/10 groups, basically seemingly based on whether they liked/vibed with the plot/story/characters/dialogue or not. Personally, I loved the plot/story/characters/dialogue, and I think anyone who likes TTRPGs and/or fantasy novels is [I]likely[/I] to feel the same way. I've just finished it and for me, overall I'd say it was probably an 8.5/10, the only things holding it back from a 9/10 being enemy variety and upgrade mechanics. It's definitely in the tier of RPGs I'd probably actually play again sometime, which isn't most of them. As an aside, kind of confirming my thinking re: TTRPGs/fantasy novels, I noticed two of the writers were Cassandra Khaw (a pretty fun fantasy/horror writer), and a name no doubt familiar to many of us who played RPGs in the 1990s, Lucien Soulban, he of Tribe 8/Silver Age Sentinels/Orpheus fame (and many others). That is definitely the vibe - this is quite a TTRPG-ish game in terms of the story/plot, and what they ask you to care about - it's quite intellectual in a sense, like asks you what you actually value, which puts it very much in line with Fallout: New Vegas and Tyranny and generally a fair bit of Obsidian's output (even Pentiment). Also the last bit of the game including the ending was surprisingly good (the actual ending/epilogue is very much of the traditional RPG "slide-show" kind, but I like those, honestly, for choice/consequences games - those are often better and more actually-satisfying than more elaborate efforts). It's also a game that doesn't really "reveal itself" in terms of overall vibes until into Act 2, which may be a bit long for some people (there are four acts and then a two-part ending section). [/QUOTE]
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