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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 9658469" data-attributes="member: 57112"><p>The thing to note about the Hall of Fame is that cultural impact has a much larger influence on getting in than actual game quality. Whether that's <em>deserving </em>of being the game that sparked the "games are art" or not is less material here than whether it <em>was </em>or not. That said, it was definitely the one on the top ten list I was the shakiest about, because it retrospect you're right, it isn't a very good game, but at the time? It was an industry darling, and I don't think that was entirely undeserved. It was definitely the smartest FPS to wind up on consoles at the time, low of a bar as that was, and we were still living in the age when PC Gaming and Console Gaming were pretending the other was much worse. It certainly doesn't help that maybe fifteen people played System Shock 2 so they didn't have something else to compare it to. Ken Levine certainly didn't get more bold with his ideas as he aged.</p><p></p><p>But the "quality" of the game not being as important as the cultural impact is a big thing I noted when looking at the Hall of Fame list. Mortal Kombat is on the list, for instance, which makes a ton of sense until you remember that Mortal Kombat was a pretty terrible fighting game even at the time. John Madden Football is on the list, and Madden games took <em>years </em>before they were considered even acceptable NFL games. The original game was <em>dire. </em></p><p></p><p>If I were basing strictly on quality though I would have filled Bioshock's spot with Silent Hill 2, and I could buy the argument of having it there instead.</p><p></p><p>This is the thing! It's why Wizardry had to top the list. It was wild to me that it didn't even make the shortlist for 2025.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 9658469, member: 57112"] The thing to note about the Hall of Fame is that cultural impact has a much larger influence on getting in than actual game quality. Whether that's [I]deserving [/I]of being the game that sparked the "games are art" or not is less material here than whether it [I]was [/I]or not. That said, it was definitely the one on the top ten list I was the shakiest about, because it retrospect you're right, it isn't a very good game, but at the time? It was an industry darling, and I don't think that was entirely undeserved. It was definitely the smartest FPS to wind up on consoles at the time, low of a bar as that was, and we were still living in the age when PC Gaming and Console Gaming were pretending the other was much worse. It certainly doesn't help that maybe fifteen people played System Shock 2 so they didn't have something else to compare it to. Ken Levine certainly didn't get more bold with his ideas as he aged. But the "quality" of the game not being as important as the cultural impact is a big thing I noted when looking at the Hall of Fame list. Mortal Kombat is on the list, for instance, which makes a ton of sense until you remember that Mortal Kombat was a pretty terrible fighting game even at the time. John Madden Football is on the list, and Madden games took [I]years [/I]before they were considered even acceptable NFL games. The original game was [I]dire. [/I] If I were basing strictly on quality though I would have filled Bioshock's spot with Silent Hill 2, and I could buy the argument of having it there instead. This is the thing! It's why Wizardry had to top the list. It was wild to me that it didn't even make the shortlist for 2025. [/QUOTE]
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