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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9894593" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I would have to agree with the people rating Lae'zel higher for unique content and perspectives. In fact, I think even <em>objectively</em> she's inarguably above Wyll, like just literally looking at how much you can do/see as Wyll that you can't do normally. I also think Shadowheart is below Lae'zel for origin runs. Karlach has a big advantage in that she talks to herself, and whilst there's not a huge amount, there's enough to make it feel much more intentional. Gale is also very well-done. Whereas Wyll is one of those ones where it seems like they should, in theory have a unique perspective and content, but simply, factually, measurably, they do not. There are crazy numbers of places where Wyll should have Wyll-specific dialogue and reactions and he just doesn't. It's wild.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In a sense, but that's kind of perverse to me. Because he's weak either way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah and we know why, because Wyll's personality, voice actor and story were drastically re-worked around the same time as the other major story changes, or even a little later, and Karlach was literally just not finished until basically release and arguably not finished even then (c.f. them having to ending revisions specifically for her etc.). I think the big changes to Act 3 also probably messed with Karlach a fair bit. On the upside, I think the reason she talks to herself is that she was developed later, and that is actually an asset for Origin campaigns. I suspect that had the game remained in full development for another year before release, or had Larian done a DOS-style "Definitive Edition" for BG3 (which was pretty clearly intended prior to the messy break-up with WotC, indeed it would likely have been used to onboard staff for BG4 the DE was used for DOS1 and DOS2), we'd have got similar self-reflection in various forms for all the Origin characters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9894593, member: 18"] I would have to agree with the people rating Lae'zel higher for unique content and perspectives. In fact, I think even [I]objectively[/I] she's inarguably above Wyll, like just literally looking at how much you can do/see as Wyll that you can't do normally. I also think Shadowheart is below Lae'zel for origin runs. Karlach has a big advantage in that she talks to herself, and whilst there's not a huge amount, there's enough to make it feel much more intentional. Gale is also very well-done. Whereas Wyll is one of those ones where it seems like they should, in theory have a unique perspective and content, but simply, factually, measurably, they do not. There are crazy numbers of places where Wyll should have Wyll-specific dialogue and reactions and he just doesn't. It's wild. In a sense, but that's kind of perverse to me. Because he's weak either way. Yeah and we know why, because Wyll's personality, voice actor and story were drastically re-worked around the same time as the other major story changes, or even a little later, and Karlach was literally just not finished until basically release and arguably not finished even then (c.f. them having to ending revisions specifically for her etc.). I think the big changes to Act 3 also probably messed with Karlach a fair bit. On the upside, I think the reason she talks to herself is that she was developed later, and that is actually an asset for Origin campaigns. I suspect that had the game remained in full development for another year before release, or had Larian done a DOS-style "Definitive Edition" for BG3 (which was pretty clearly intended prior to the messy break-up with WotC, indeed it would likely have been used to onboard staff for BG4 the DE was used for DOS1 and DOS2), we'd have got similar self-reflection in various forms for all the Origin characters. [/QUOTE]
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