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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9589087" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>That is an issue, it's an issue with any program with many features and options. But what people tend to forget is that not every DM is a techwizard, but it's perfectly possible for someone else in your group to manage it and for you to just run it. But manage expectations, if you want a lot out of it, you need to put in a lot. But it's also perfectly possible to run with the basics and maybe a module or two for dice rolling (Dice so Nice and Dice Tray).</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is not correct info.</p><p>The Paizo PF2e Kingmaker adventure path costs <u>$99</u> in physical form (even just the PDF is $50):</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://paizo.com/products/btq02e0d?Pathfinder-Kingmaker-Adventure-Path[/URL]</p><p>The Foundry VTT marketplace price is $115 for the Kingmaker module ($98 on sale right now).</p><p></p><p>The difference being that IF you run it physically you would also need battlemaps (3x $30) and tokens/pawns ($60 OOP).</p><p></p><p>What these FVTT modules offer is a complete prepared experience for you as DM. Don't forget that Kingmaker is a 640 page adventure path for PF2e, converting that into a module up to that kind of quality would take many, many hours (hundreds). Even if you don't care for the sound/music, it's still a deal IF you actually run it. That's not even talking about new subsystems specifically developed for this module. Unless of course you don't value your time and/or your time is virtually worthless.</p><p></p><p>Normally an adventure path module is $30, but you have 3-6 of those in a path. And if you already own the PDFs, you get a discount on the Paizo site (the FVTT module then only costs $70).</p><p></p><p>And while you can do some import work from other sources like D&D beyond and certain PF2e adventures, what's imported doesn't compare imho to what these FVTT modules offer. But there are of course excellent <em>free</em> battlemaps, so why pay anything for battlemaps with that mentality.</p><p></p><p>There are two reasons why I buy FVTT modules:</p><p>#1 They show what can be done with the system (both the RPG side and with FVTT).</p><p>#2 I'm going to use me and they'll save me a LOT of time.</p><p></p><p>Sidenote: Whole Kingmaker pdf collection (+other stuff) is in a Humble Bundle for $30 (more if you want the computer game and/or you want to PF1e bestiary for Kingmaker): <a href="https://www.humblebundle.com/books/pathfinder-kingmaker-bundle-from-paizo-inc-books" target="_blank">Humble RPG Bundle: Pathfinder Kingmaker Bundle from Paizo Inc.</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9589087, member: 725"] That is an issue, it's an issue with any program with many features and options. But what people tend to forget is that not every DM is a techwizard, but it's perfectly possible for someone else in your group to manage it and for you to just run it. But manage expectations, if you want a lot out of it, you need to put in a lot. But it's also perfectly possible to run with the basics and maybe a module or two for dice rolling (Dice so Nice and Dice Tray). That is not correct info. The Paizo PF2e Kingmaker adventure path costs [U]$99[/U] in physical form (even just the PDF is $50): [URL unfurl="true"]https://paizo.com/products/btq02e0d?Pathfinder-Kingmaker-Adventure-Path[/URL] The Foundry VTT marketplace price is $115 for the Kingmaker module ($98 on sale right now). The difference being that IF you run it physically you would also need battlemaps (3x $30) and tokens/pawns ($60 OOP). What these FVTT modules offer is a complete prepared experience for you as DM. Don't forget that Kingmaker is a 640 page adventure path for PF2e, converting that into a module up to that kind of quality would take many, many hours (hundreds). Even if you don't care for the sound/music, it's still a deal IF you actually run it. That's not even talking about new subsystems specifically developed for this module. Unless of course you don't value your time and/or your time is virtually worthless. Normally an adventure path module is $30, but you have 3-6 of those in a path. And if you already own the PDFs, you get a discount on the Paizo site (the FVTT module then only costs $70). And while you can do some import work from other sources like D&D beyond and certain PF2e adventures, what's imported doesn't compare imho to what these FVTT modules offer. But there are of course excellent [I]free[/I] battlemaps, so why pay anything for battlemaps with that mentality. There are two reasons why I buy FVTT modules: #1 They show what can be done with the system (both the RPG side and with FVTT). #2 I'm going to use me and they'll save me a LOT of time. Sidenote: Whole Kingmaker pdf collection (+other stuff) is in a Humble Bundle for $30 (more if you want the computer game and/or you want to PF1e bestiary for Kingmaker): [URL="https://www.humblebundle.com/books/pathfinder-kingmaker-bundle-from-paizo-inc-books"]Humble RPG Bundle: Pathfinder Kingmaker Bundle from Paizo Inc.[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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