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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 4117147" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>You mean like <a href="http://paizo.com/store/paizo/pathfinder/pathfinderChronicles/v5748btpy80ic" target="_blank">THIS?</a> </p><p></p><p>And as far as stalling goes, stall until when WOTC is ready to give the 3rd party companies the GSL? Which was supposed to have been in Jan? Paizo needed to have the rule in time to become familiar with them so that they could put out product in time for Gen Con if they were going the 4E route (which honestly I think that if they had the GSL in time we would'nt be seeing this announcement...).</p><p></p><p>As far as splitting the market goes, I dont really get that either. I'm looking at my gaming bookshelf right now and I have about 16 different games on it. Now I like 3.5, there are elements of 4E that I was planning on incorporating into my 3.5 game, but as a whole I don't think that 4E is for me. I might play in a pickup game if someone else is going to run it, but I'm not going to invest the thousands of dollars that I did in 3.5. Paizo is company that I was planning on supporting (unless they went 4E, in which case I'd have no need for their product) who has announced what basically is going to be a 3.5 / 4E hybrid, which is something that I was planning on doing myself anyway. Will I still for the most part be able to use my expansive library or 3.5 material with this hybrid? Probably more than I 'd be able to with 4E and really that's a priority not only for me but for all of the people who feel left out in the cold by WOTC's drastic switch. </p><p></p><p>Keep in mind, I'm not saying that 4E sucks, but I want to ADD to my D&D game not REPLACE it. Which is what I'll have to do if I decide to go 4E. Paizo is a company that I like supporting, just like WOTC used to be a company I liked supporting (I'm once again looking at my bookshelf from where I type this and there are ALOT of 3E and 3.5 books on this shelf). WOTC no longer has a product that I'm interested in supporting. Paizo does. If Paizo had gone full on 4E as much as I like them, I could not support them. It's not personal. I'm not saying that 4E bosters are idiots. There are enough idiots on both sides of this argument and I'm honestly glad that NONE of them are at my table when it's time to game. But for me it's about the game, my game and what I'm will to do at my table with my players. </p><p></p><p>As of right now my players (of which there are 5) are more tolerant of house rules and modification of existing rules, than of going out and buying / moving to a new edition. </p><p>They want no part of 4E, they are good with our modded version of 3.5. Maybe that will change but the more I talk to other gamers in real space the more I'm finding out that my group isnt the only one like this. Sure I've run into a few who are excited about 4E and god bless 'em, whatever makes them happy. I'm not trying to say that my anecdotal evidence is proof of anything other than MY OWN OBSERVATION. But it's still my own observation and it's important to ME.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 4117147, member: 9213"] You mean like [URL=http://paizo.com/store/paizo/pathfinder/pathfinderChronicles/v5748btpy80ic]THIS?[/URL] And as far as stalling goes, stall until when WOTC is ready to give the 3rd party companies the GSL? Which was supposed to have been in Jan? Paizo needed to have the rule in time to become familiar with them so that they could put out product in time for Gen Con if they were going the 4E route (which honestly I think that if they had the GSL in time we would'nt be seeing this announcement...). As far as splitting the market goes, I dont really get that either. I'm looking at my gaming bookshelf right now and I have about 16 different games on it. Now I like 3.5, there are elements of 4E that I was planning on incorporating into my 3.5 game, but as a whole I don't think that 4E is for me. I might play in a pickup game if someone else is going to run it, but I'm not going to invest the thousands of dollars that I did in 3.5. Paizo is company that I was planning on supporting (unless they went 4E, in which case I'd have no need for their product) who has announced what basically is going to be a 3.5 / 4E hybrid, which is something that I was planning on doing myself anyway. Will I still for the most part be able to use my expansive library or 3.5 material with this hybrid? Probably more than I 'd be able to with 4E and really that's a priority not only for me but for all of the people who feel left out in the cold by WOTC's drastic switch. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that 4E sucks, but I want to ADD to my D&D game not REPLACE it. Which is what I'll have to do if I decide to go 4E. Paizo is a company that I like supporting, just like WOTC used to be a company I liked supporting (I'm once again looking at my bookshelf from where I type this and there are ALOT of 3E and 3.5 books on this shelf). WOTC no longer has a product that I'm interested in supporting. Paizo does. If Paizo had gone full on 4E as much as I like them, I could not support them. It's not personal. I'm not saying that 4E bosters are idiots. There are enough idiots on both sides of this argument and I'm honestly glad that NONE of them are at my table when it's time to game. But for me it's about the game, my game and what I'm will to do at my table with my players. As of right now my players (of which there are 5) are more tolerant of house rules and modification of existing rules, than of going out and buying / moving to a new edition. They want no part of 4E, they are good with our modded version of 3.5. Maybe that will change but the more I talk to other gamers in real space the more I'm finding out that my group isnt the only one like this. Sure I've run into a few who are excited about 4E and god bless 'em, whatever makes them happy. I'm not trying to say that my anecdotal evidence is proof of anything other than MY OWN OBSERVATION. But it's still my own observation and it's important to ME. [/QUOTE]
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