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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shadewyn" data-source="post: 4117455" data-attributes="member: 6340"><p>The point being that if;</p><p></p><p>1) a fighter was X level of intresting to play in 3.5</p><p></p><p>2) And a Paizo tripled the fun factor, and doubled the end game power (to normalize them with mages that go nova)</p><p></p><p>3) Existing 3.5 splat books on fighters failed to correct those issues as well as Paizo did</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then the only conclusion really is that Once you play the Pathfinder you are playing a whole new game. You will NOT go back to sub optimal 3.5 splat books to go fishing for weak, broken solutions.</p><p></p><p>As a result if you are not USING old 3.5 stuff anymore, and the mechanics have shifted so that you have to CONVERT all that old stuff on the fly between 3.5 to 3.75 you now also have a PENALTY to use the old stuff.</p><p></p><p>Take those yippee skippee thoughts and then think about how well the 3.0 to 3.5 transition went.</p><p></p><p>Anyone want to dredge up the intrawebs for folks who "WOULD NOT CONVERT" and still do the old 3.0 version? Any of them still around? How about all those publishers who sold 3.0 stuff ... how much of that sells anymore? It was a SEAMLESS upgrade ... yeah right.</p><p></p><p>DMs who purchase PREBUILT modules and products are in the market for conveiniece. Sure if we have time we could build a game world, stat it with richly detailed NPCs, custome tailor it to our players, etc ...</p><p></p><p>Realistically we are crawling in from a late week at work and our gaming group clamors for content. <span style="color: Red">Paizo was the microwave pizza solution. Fast, pretty tasty, and most everyone will be happy with the results.</span></p><p></p><p>Now I open the box and I am told to how to convert my microwave to a convection oven and it suggests that I convince my gamers about the virtues of sardines, and to get that stuft crust look we used to love that I should manuallt inject velveeta into the dough mid way through baking.</p><p></p><p>Uhh Uhhh ... no ... no convience? No purchase.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadewyn, post: 4117455, member: 6340"] The point being that if; 1) a fighter was X level of intresting to play in 3.5 2) And a Paizo tripled the fun factor, and doubled the end game power (to normalize them with mages that go nova) 3) Existing 3.5 splat books on fighters failed to correct those issues as well as Paizo did Then the only conclusion really is that Once you play the Pathfinder you are playing a whole new game. You will NOT go back to sub optimal 3.5 splat books to go fishing for weak, broken solutions. As a result if you are not USING old 3.5 stuff anymore, and the mechanics have shifted so that you have to CONVERT all that old stuff on the fly between 3.5 to 3.75 you now also have a PENALTY to use the old stuff. Take those yippee skippee thoughts and then think about how well the 3.0 to 3.5 transition went. Anyone want to dredge up the intrawebs for folks who "WOULD NOT CONVERT" and still do the old 3.0 version? Any of them still around? How about all those publishers who sold 3.0 stuff ... how much of that sells anymore? It was a SEAMLESS upgrade ... yeah right. DMs who purchase PREBUILT modules and products are in the market for conveiniece. Sure if we have time we could build a game world, stat it with richly detailed NPCs, custome tailor it to our players, etc ... Realistically we are crawling in from a late week at work and our gaming group clamors for content. [COLOR=Red]Paizo was the microwave pizza solution. Fast, pretty tasty, and most everyone will be happy with the results.[/COLOR] Now I open the box and I am told to how to convert my microwave to a convection oven and it suggests that I convince my gamers about the virtues of sardines, and to get that stuft crust look we used to love that I should manuallt inject velveeta into the dough mid way through baking. Uhh Uhhh ... no ... no convience? No purchase. [/QUOTE]
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