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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zil" data-source="post: 4117574" data-attributes="member: 20004"><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>4) You instead choose to build your own NON COMPATIBLE version of D&D.</em> </p><p></p><p>Non-compatible? Non-compatible with what? 4.0? Or 3.5? I thought Paizo clearly stated that they aimed to be backwards compatible with 3.5? It's 4.0 that is non-compatible with anything else (that is what I've been hearing from WoTC with no conversion rules from previous versions). At least with what Paizo is proposing, I'll be able to continue to use my existing library of third edition books.</p><p></p><p>I really have not liked much that I've seen or read on 4E so far and this gives me some additional options for dealing with some of the flaws in 3.0/3.5. It also helps that they Paizo did such a good job with the first Pathfinder series. I've been enjoying that adventure path more than anything I've picked up from WoTC lately. </p><p></p><p>Even if I decide in the end not to move to Paizo's 3.75 (Pathfinder) OGL ruleset, I suspect it will be easier to reverse engineer their adventures back to 3.5 than it will be to reverse engineer a 4E adventure back to 3.5. Consequently, I'll stick with Paizo as long as they continue to put out high quality adventures I can use.</p><p></p><p>I'm actually really intrigued by this development. When WoTC effectively "open-sourced" D&D through the OGL, they gave up some measure of control over the game (through the OGL). Instead, the commons (i.e. you, me and anyone else who cares) now has some level of ownership. Now that WoTC wants to create a new version of the game, and make it less open, third party publishers are free to continue using the 3.5 version of the SRD or effectively "fork" off from the 3.5 version of the game (using the OGL) if they wish instead of going with the new version - just like what sometimes happens in the open source software world. Sometimes the forks can eclipse the parent. Will that happen this time? Who knows. The forks can never really be called D&D and the D&D brand name really counts for a lot so D&D 4E will still probably do quite well regardless. I suspect though that I'm not the only one out there who has a bad feeling about what they've been reading so far about 4E and this fork may be a good place for that segment of the RPG market to park their support.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zil, post: 4117574, member: 20004"] [INDENT][I] 4) You instead choose to build your own NON COMPATIBLE version of D&D.[/I] [/INDENT] Non-compatible? Non-compatible with what? 4.0? Or 3.5? I thought Paizo clearly stated that they aimed to be backwards compatible with 3.5? It's 4.0 that is non-compatible with anything else (that is what I've been hearing from WoTC with no conversion rules from previous versions). At least with what Paizo is proposing, I'll be able to continue to use my existing library of third edition books. I really have not liked much that I've seen or read on 4E so far and this gives me some additional options for dealing with some of the flaws in 3.0/3.5. It also helps that they Paizo did such a good job with the first Pathfinder series. I've been enjoying that adventure path more than anything I've picked up from WoTC lately. Even if I decide in the end not to move to Paizo's 3.75 (Pathfinder) OGL ruleset, I suspect it will be easier to reverse engineer their adventures back to 3.5 than it will be to reverse engineer a 4E adventure back to 3.5. Consequently, I'll stick with Paizo as long as they continue to put out high quality adventures I can use. I'm actually really intrigued by this development. When WoTC effectively "open-sourced" D&D through the OGL, they gave up some measure of control over the game (through the OGL). Instead, the commons (i.e. you, me and anyone else who cares) now has some level of ownership. Now that WoTC wants to create a new version of the game, and make it less open, third party publishers are free to continue using the 3.5 version of the SRD or effectively "fork" off from the 3.5 version of the game (using the OGL) if they wish instead of going with the new version - just like what sometimes happens in the open source software world. Sometimes the forks can eclipse the parent. Will that happen this time? Who knows. The forks can never really be called D&D and the D&D brand name really counts for a lot so D&D 4E will still probably do quite well regardless. I suspect though that I'm not the only one out there who has a bad feeling about what they've been reading so far about 4E and this fork may be a good place for that segment of the RPG market to park their support. [/QUOTE]
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