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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 4118639" data-attributes="member: 18490"><p>1) Because I buy stuff to use in the future, not now.</p><p></p><p>2) Because I buy stuff to read for inspiration in my own campaign.</p><p></p><p>3) Because I consider buying new rules and mechanics for a game system I don't use to be a waste of my money. If Pathfinder were just adventures, with no new mechanics, I would consider buying them.</p><p></p><p>For me, it is a combination of the above. As many have said, I have enough 3e material to last for many years. It is the system that I don't enjoy anymore. I can convert the Paizo material to 4e without a problem, but why should I? I will have the Necromancer products, the WotC products and the Goodman games products for inspiration, maps, monsters and NPCs I won't have to convert. For me, there is no real upside to continuing to buy product that will be incompatible with 4e at the time I choose to use it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not buying any 3e product right now anyway. 4e comes out in about 60 days. When it does, I hope to be able to buy as much third party stuff as I can to broaden the material I have to pillage for ideas. Unfortunately, Paizo chose not to serve my needs, wants and desires. I hope their new system does well for them. I doubt it, but I hope that I'm wrong.</p><p></p><p>I have also decided not to use adventure paths in the future, or to play in them if I can help it. My group prefers a slower rate of advancement than 3e or 4e supports in the RAW. We also dislike the hurried pace of APs in which characters move from 1st to 20th level in about a year of game time. Although 4e will be no better in this regard than 3e, the rules appear to be easier to houserule than earlier editions. Long APs that assume 2-3 level advancement per adventure are not compatible with slower advancement, especially when the plot requires the characters to move from one adventure to the next at a rapid pace. Stand alone scenarios are better for our campaigns.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, if Paizo had decided to make 4e Pathfinder, the very parts of the product that turn me off now would be the biggest draw - the new mechanics and such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kennew142, post: 4118639, member: 18490"] 1) Because I buy stuff to use in the future, not now. 2) Because I buy stuff to read for inspiration in my own campaign. 3) Because I consider buying new rules and mechanics for a game system I don't use to be a waste of my money. If Pathfinder were just adventures, with no new mechanics, I would consider buying them. For me, it is a combination of the above. As many have said, I have enough 3e material to last for many years. It is the system that I don't enjoy anymore. I can convert the Paizo material to 4e without a problem, but why should I? I will have the Necromancer products, the WotC products and the Goodman games products for inspiration, maps, monsters and NPCs I won't have to convert. For me, there is no real upside to continuing to buy product that will be incompatible with 4e at the time I choose to use it. I'm not buying any 3e product right now anyway. 4e comes out in about 60 days. When it does, I hope to be able to buy as much third party stuff as I can to broaden the material I have to pillage for ideas. Unfortunately, Paizo chose not to serve my needs, wants and desires. I hope their new system does well for them. I doubt it, but I hope that I'm wrong. I have also decided not to use adventure paths in the future, or to play in them if I can help it. My group prefers a slower rate of advancement than 3e or 4e supports in the RAW. We also dislike the hurried pace of APs in which characters move from 1st to 20th level in about a year of game time. Although 4e will be no better in this regard than 3e, the rules appear to be easier to houserule than earlier editions. Long APs that assume 2-3 level advancement per adventure are not compatible with slower advancement, especially when the plot requires the characters to move from one adventure to the next at a rapid pace. Stand alone scenarios are better for our campaigns. Ironically, if Paizo had decided to make 4e Pathfinder, the very parts of the product that turn me off now would be the biggest draw - the new mechanics and such. [/QUOTE]
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