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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Firevalkyrie" data-source="post: 4122583" data-attributes="member: 57371"><p>To be honest, Pathfinder doesn't make sense. It's gratuitously incompatible with 3.5 despite advertising compatibility with it. 3.5 adventures played with Pathfinder characters are going to need a lot of work to make sure that the adventurers don't walk through the module, while Pathfinder adventures are going to grind up rules-as-written D&D 3.5 characters. It's a bad decision either way, but I'm not sure if it's the least bad of the presented bad decisions (wait for the GSL, continue publishing 3.5 OGL adventures or publish a brand new 3.5-derived game) or the most bad.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that most of those who are sticking with 3.x are done buying new rulebooks, just as most of those who stuck with AD&D 2nd Edition didn't care all that much about Hackmaster.</p><p></p><p>Counting on the scraps of another company's business is a bad business plan, and I would certainly hope Lisa Stevens and Erik Mona are smarter than to have that built into their plan for Pathfinder. For the <strong>vast</strong> majority of players, D&D will be "good enough," just as it has been for the last 35 years. It will build on the same network externalities as the previous versions of D&D - and that's not just business speak we're talking about here. Network externalities are found in action every time somebody opens a thread on a message board saying "Why can't I find a group for my beloved game, <em>World of Synnibarr</em>?" (if you're playing <em>World of Synnibarr</em> you've got other problems, but that's neither here nor there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder has <em>no</em> visible presence whatsoever outside of the internet and a few meager square feet of shelf space at your friendly local game store. When the Pathfinder RPG comes out, it's going to be fighting for shelf footage with all of the other 3.5-derived games sitting there collecting dust. Many of which have just as impressive production values and are just as interesting in their own right as Pathfinder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Firevalkyrie, post: 4122583, member: 57371"] To be honest, Pathfinder doesn't make sense. It's gratuitously incompatible with 3.5 despite advertising compatibility with it. 3.5 adventures played with Pathfinder characters are going to need a lot of work to make sure that the adventurers don't walk through the module, while Pathfinder adventures are going to grind up rules-as-written D&D 3.5 characters. It's a bad decision either way, but I'm not sure if it's the least bad of the presented bad decisions (wait for the GSL, continue publishing 3.5 OGL adventures or publish a brand new 3.5-derived game) or the most bad. I think that most of those who are sticking with 3.x are done buying new rulebooks, just as most of those who stuck with AD&D 2nd Edition didn't care all that much about Hackmaster. Counting on the scraps of another company's business is a bad business plan, and I would certainly hope Lisa Stevens and Erik Mona are smarter than to have that built into their plan for Pathfinder. For the [b]vast[/b] majority of players, D&D will be "good enough," just as it has been for the last 35 years. It will build on the same network externalities as the previous versions of D&D - and that's not just business speak we're talking about here. Network externalities are found in action every time somebody opens a thread on a message board saying "Why can't I find a group for my beloved game, [i]World of Synnibarr[/i]?" (if you're playing [i]World of Synnibarr[/i] you've got other problems, but that's neither here nor there ;) ). Pathfinder has [i]no[/i] visible presence whatsoever outside of the internet and a few meager square feet of shelf space at your friendly local game store. When the Pathfinder RPG comes out, it's going to be fighting for shelf footage with all of the other 3.5-derived games sitting there collecting dust. Many of which have just as impressive production values and are just as interesting in their own right as Pathfinder. [/QUOTE]
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