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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 4124432" data-attributes="member: 2804"><p>I can certainly have fun playing 3e. But it depends heavily on the DM, and what house rules they have if any. I would never play 3e RAW, and haven't since it came out. And I have no interest in DMing it anymore. The problem is my design philosophy is going to radically differ from other people. When I say irredeemably broken, I mean that I don't think a minor rules fix here and there will be enough to fix some of the fundamental issues I have. Level drain, save or lose, wonkiness with high level play, christmas tree effect, out of control buffs and stat boosts and damage.</p><p></p><p>I have been suffering from 3.x fatigue for some time now. Bo9S helped alleviate some of that. And Paizo Adventure Paths made DMing a high level game tolerable for a while since they basically did most of the heavy lifting.</p><p></p><p>I think at this point the game needs a massive redesign. In other words, 4e.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I will concede that 4e may also disappoint me since I haven't seen it yet. But so far, I really like what I hear. I guess I'll also say that the finished Pathfinder game could surprise me and totally blow me away. I just don't think they'll be able to change enough to satisfy me and still be backwards compatible. Not to mention keeping all their other fans happy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed, I'll agree with you here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragonblade, post: 4124432, member: 2804"] I can certainly have fun playing 3e. But it depends heavily on the DM, and what house rules they have if any. I would never play 3e RAW, and haven't since it came out. And I have no interest in DMing it anymore. The problem is my design philosophy is going to radically differ from other people. When I say irredeemably broken, I mean that I don't think a minor rules fix here and there will be enough to fix some of the fundamental issues I have. Level drain, save or lose, wonkiness with high level play, christmas tree effect, out of control buffs and stat boosts and damage. I have been suffering from 3.x fatigue for some time now. Bo9S helped alleviate some of that. And Paizo Adventure Paths made DMing a high level game tolerable for a while since they basically did most of the heavy lifting. I think at this point the game needs a massive redesign. In other words, 4e. I will concede that 4e may also disappoint me since I haven't seen it yet. But so far, I really like what I hear. I guess I'll also say that the finished Pathfinder game could surprise me and totally blow me away. I just don't think they'll be able to change enough to satisfy me and still be backwards compatible. Not to mention keeping all their other fans happy. Indeed, I'll agree with you here. :) [/QUOTE]
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