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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4125496" data-attributes="member: 957">Obviously quality will outlast crap.  But I don't see the buggywhip analogy as valid because there is no less desire for gaming than ever before.  The issue has nothing to do with the product become outdated and everything to do with people having everything they need.  People stopped buying buggy whips because they didn't have buggys and therefore had no need for buggy whips.  They didn't stop buying buggywhips because they had a bookshelf covered with hundreds of buggywhips in every shape and color to keep them entertained for the rest of their life.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> 3X gamers do have enough product to keep them going for the rest of their life.  So I'd expect the majority of sales these days are in two camps: New Adventures, which never get old; and people who collect their regular gaming fix.  New gamers and products with a cool new idea also fit in, the same baseline motive will also exist at some level.  But the market has evolved by necessity.When 4e starts out people who want to play the new game will "need" stuff in a way that hasn't been true for 3E for a very long time.  The 4e sales out of the gate will be way ahead of anything 3e has seen in a while.  (though very possibly not up to 3E's release)  But, the 3E loyal purchasers are quite likely to keep chugging along.  I doubt there will ever be a time again when 3e system sales match 4e sales (but you never know.... )  But I'll not be at all surprised if 3E sales do a better job of providing the sustained sales flow that 3e publishers (or even just publisher) need than 4e is does of living up to its hopes over the course of several years.4E's bar is so much higher than Pathfinders that it isn't even a valid comparison.  So it is completely possible for Pathfinder to be a smash success and 4e to disappoint, regardless of how many times more 4E PHs sell than Pathfinder books.</blockquote>

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