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What was Paizo thinking? 3.75 the 4E clone?
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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4127229" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>OK, I see what you were saying. And, I won't argue that it might have <em>seemed</em> that way to some; this doesn't make it true. Nor does it necessarily <em>seem</em> as though WotC doesn't view customer input as a chore now. The mishandling of the 4e announcement, for example, wouldn't have happened (IMHO) had WotC viewed listening to its customer base as anything other than a chore. Some of the early 4e comments come across very much as "Whatever you may say, or whatever you may want, this is what is happening." I can't recall any TSR gaffe that was even remotely close.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I also don't think that TSR failed to recognize a viable market; I just think that, compared to the competition, their collectable games were simply not as good. I personally enjoyed early Spellfire, but it spiralled out of control, and they had to print a book to tell you how to interpret the rules on the cards.....and the book was also contradictory! Dragon Dice was, I think, a last ditch effort to grab part of the collectable market when it became painfully obvious that the TSR card games couldn't compete with Magic: The Gathering.</p><p></p><p>As far as Mr. Dancey's "facts" (according to Mourn); I will note only that Mr. Dancey doesn't make the assertation that his opinions are facts, and leave it at that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4127229, member: 18280"] OK, I see what you were saying. And, I won't argue that it might have [i]seemed[/i] that way to some; this doesn't make it true. Nor does it necessarily [i]seem[/i] as though WotC doesn't view customer input as a chore now. The mishandling of the 4e announcement, for example, wouldn't have happened (IMHO) had WotC viewed listening to its customer base as anything other than a chore. Some of the early 4e comments come across very much as "Whatever you may say, or whatever you may want, this is what is happening." I can't recall any TSR gaffe that was even remotely close. EDIT: I also don't think that TSR failed to recognize a viable market; I just think that, compared to the competition, their collectable games were simply not as good. I personally enjoyed early Spellfire, but it spiralled out of control, and they had to print a book to tell you how to interpret the rules on the cards.....and the book was also contradictory! Dragon Dice was, I think, a last ditch effort to grab part of the collectable market when it became painfully obvious that the TSR card games couldn't compete with Magic: The Gathering. As far as Mr. Dancey's "facts" (according to Mourn); I will note only that Mr. Dancey doesn't make the assertation that his opinions are facts, and leave it at that. RC [/QUOTE]
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