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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3016748" data-attributes="member: 22779">This is where you lost me:I would point to the plethora of scrolls of stone to flesh lying around in basilisk's and medusae lairs in published adventure modules.&nbsp; Never mind that a hoard of a fairly tough monster will invariably stock healing potions and, if it has poison, something to fix that too.The idea that things have changed so much that the players will always have the right tools for the job is nonsense.However, what you said here:I almost agree with except for &quot;ensuring the PC's survival&quot;.&nbsp; Again, this is simply not true.&nbsp; Look at the recent Age of Worms AP.&nbsp; There's some unbelievably nasty encounters in there.&nbsp; Actually, all you have to look at is the Monster Manual.&nbsp; As I mentioned before, a couple of lucky die rolls and you kill a PC in one round with a 3.5 creature.Earlier edition creatures, no matter what you rolled, couldn't kill PC's in one round.&nbsp; Except maybe the wizard.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; And, even then, you were likely going to knock him into negatives, not dead.&nbsp; 3e combat is far and away more lethal than earlier editions.&nbsp; The idea that PC's are somehow being &quot;coddled&quot; so their characters survive means you just haven't tried very hard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3016748, member: 22779"] This is where you lost me: I would point to the plethora of scrolls of stone to flesh lying around in basilisk's and medusae lairs in published adventure modules. Never mind that a hoard of a fairly tough monster will invariably stock healing potions and, if it has poison, something to fix that too. The idea that things have changed so much that the players will always have the right tools for the job is nonsense. However, what you said here: I almost agree with except for "ensuring the PC's survival". Again, this is simply not true. Look at the recent Age of Worms AP. There's some unbelievably nasty encounters in there. Actually, all you have to look at is the Monster Manual. As I mentioned before, a couple of lucky die rolls and you kill a PC in one round with a 3.5 creature. Earlier edition creatures, no matter what you rolled, couldn't kill PC's in one round. Except maybe the wizard. :) And, even then, you were likely going to knock him into negatives, not dead. 3e combat is far and away more lethal than earlier editions. The idea that PC's are somehow being "coddled" so their characters survive means you just haven't tried very hard. [/QUOTE]

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