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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4042433" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>In fairness, I think this is more of a problem with 3.5 than it is with 3.0. The problem here is <em>you can focus on one or two character tricks like a laserbeam</em>. I was already getting annoyed with this in early 3.0, which is one of the reasons I made the decision early on to bane PrC's. By 3.5, the options to create 'one trick wonders' had become so common that they were for all practical purposes the default assumption of the game. Correspondingly, the actual challenge of creatures with higher CR's was greatly increased above the levels of 3.0 to cope with the power creep. But this put the game in a situation where if you wanted to use the CR system at higher levels, your PC's pretty much had to have created 'one trick wonders'.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, any system that allows you to focus in on one single trick with 'laserbeam' like precision is going to be one that I won't allow at my table. The amount of times that WotC printed supplemental rules that made an already useful and balanced character build more powerful made me want to scream, and was one of the chief reasons I simply stopped buying WotC books.</p><p></p><p>I stuck to largely 3.0 plus my own approved feats exclusively focused on enabling character builds that wouldn't be viable use core feats only. I banned PrC's and largely stuck to the core classes. I _did not_ have many of the problems that I hear about so frequently on these boards. Of course, again, I also didn't play alot of high level 3.X in part because I had kids, and in part because I wanted to stick to what I thought was the 'sweet spot'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4042433, member: 4937"] In fairness, I think this is more of a problem with 3.5 than it is with 3.0. The problem here is [i]you can focus on one or two character tricks like a laserbeam[/i]. I was already getting annoyed with this in early 3.0, which is one of the reasons I made the decision early on to bane PrC's. By 3.5, the options to create 'one trick wonders' had become so common that they were for all practical purposes the default assumption of the game. Correspondingly, the actual challenge of creatures with higher CR's was greatly increased above the levels of 3.0 to cope with the power creep. But this put the game in a situation where if you wanted to use the CR system at higher levels, your PC's pretty much had to have created 'one trick wonders'. Frankly, any system that allows you to focus in on one single trick with 'laserbeam' like precision is going to be one that I won't allow at my table. The amount of times that WotC printed supplemental rules that made an already useful and balanced character build more powerful made me want to scream, and was one of the chief reasons I simply stopped buying WotC books. I stuck to largely 3.0 plus my own approved feats exclusively focused on enabling character builds that wouldn't be viable use core feats only. I banned PrC's and largely stuck to the core classes. I _did not_ have many of the problems that I hear about so frequently on these boards. Of course, again, I also didn't play alot of high level 3.X in part because I had kids, and in part because I wanted to stick to what I thought was the 'sweet spot'. [/QUOTE]
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