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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 4042566" data-attributes="member: 762">You'll note that all the characters with a &quot;good number of tricks&quot; are casters of one iteration or another. Having access to decent magic gives you a broad number of options almost by definition. Having a good build where you can get synergies going makes that even more effective.The problem is the non-casting classes. For them to even attempt to keep up with the casters, they have to find an effective shtick and stick to it like glue. This may make them effective -but also makes them boring (charging and swinging your ax is fun but gets old if that's all you do, especially if the guy next to you has all sorts of fun effective options).This is one reason I like the Bo9S classes - they give warriors more options in combat while still allowing them to keep up with spellcasters.It certainly looks like the 4e designers are aware of this fact and have taken steps in the right direction (we'll have to see of course).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mort, post: 4042566, member: 762"] You'll note that all the characters with a "good number of tricks" are casters of one iteration or another. Having access to decent magic gives you a broad number of options almost by definition. Having a good build where you can get synergies going makes that even more effective. The problem is the non-casting classes. For them to even attempt to keep up with the casters, they have to find an effective shtick and stick to it like glue. This may make them effective -but also makes them boring (charging and swinging your ax is fun but gets old if that's all you do, especially if the guy next to you has all sorts of fun effective options). This is one reason I like the Bo9S classes - they give warriors more options in combat while still allowing them to keep up with spellcasters. It certainly looks like the 4e designers are aware of this fact and have taken steps in the right direction (we'll have to see of course). [/QUOTE]

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