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<blockquote data-quote="Ipissimus" data-source="post: 4044180" data-attributes="member: 41514">True, but with Loremaster you have to spend resources on divination, which is ok if that's the sort of character you want to play. Also, there is an ability score limit on the bonuses you get from Loremaster and the special abilities are nice but aren't really anything to shout about. Why bother with Lore when you can ask a Bard or an NPC for the same info? Ok, the divinations are nice, but the Cleric can do that. Or better, a magic item.While there's something to be said for picking up those extra little tricks, do they outweigh the added complexity? Is what you're gaining significantly better to warrent even the minimal effort you'll expend? I think I've only seen a handful of spellcasting PrCs that my answer was 'yes' to that question, and alot of them are vile. Wild Mage, I like, though it's boarderline. Frost Mage (I think it was?) is pretty cool (pun intended <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ).meh, doesn't matter, it's all personal preference anyway. My favourite PrC's Mystic Theurge, so who am I to talk about complexity?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ipissimus, post: 4044180, member: 41514"] True, but with Loremaster you have to spend resources on divination, which is ok if that's the sort of character you want to play. Also, there is an ability score limit on the bonuses you get from Loremaster and the special abilities are nice but aren't really anything to shout about. Why bother with Lore when you can ask a Bard or an NPC for the same info? Ok, the divinations are nice, but the Cleric can do that. Or better, a magic item. While there's something to be said for picking up those extra little tricks, do they outweigh the added complexity? Is what you're gaining significantly better to warrent even the minimal effort you'll expend? I think I've only seen a handful of spellcasting PrCs that my answer was 'yes' to that question, and alot of them are vile. Wild Mage, I like, though it's boarderline. Frost Mage (I think it was?) is pretty cool (pun intended :D ). meh, doesn't matter, it's all personal preference anyway. My favourite PrC's Mystic Theurge, so who am I to talk about complexity? :p [/QUOTE]

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